On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Mathias Behrle <[email protected]> wrote:

> * Betr.: " Re: [tryton] Sale lines with negative quantities generate credit
>   notes and return shipments" (Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:29:28 -0800):
>
> > I agree that "damaged" products that are type stockable should not be
> > returned to storage.  The return of damaged products is a good example.
> > Does that affect stock and accounting or just stock?  I do not understand
> > what must be done in the case of accounting when a damaged good is
> > returned.
>
> We worked on this already some time ago in the German community (kudos to
> timitos). You can have a look on the accounting side and definition of
> credit
> note vs. cancelation according to German law at
> http://tryton.origo.ethz.ch/wiki/implementierung_gutschrift_storno . The
> document doesn't reflect stock handling (i.e. what has to be done on stock,
> if
> a damaged good will be returned to the supplier?).
>
>
 Is the credit note mentioned in that document you linked the same as the
credit note in tryton? It seems different.  Is a credit note for an open
invoice and a paid invoice?  When do cacellation and credit notes apply to
those two types of invoices?



> >  Let's assume for now that damaged products will be discarded
> > instead of re-used or sold at a discount.  I guess that in the case of
> > damaged stockable products that nothing will be done at all regarding
> stock
> > when they are returned.
>

> I think in case of damage you will have for a product purchased
> from another supplier at least a move from customer_in_location to
> supplier_out_location. For a product produced by the company itself a move
> from
> customer_in_location to cull_location ( ;-) bought from Ian Wilson).
>
>
This makes sense.


> > The return of composite containers on the other hand seems like a less
> > likely example.  Why wouldn't the crate and the bottles both be all
> products
> > themselves?  Otherwise what happens when a crate is returned with all
> > bottles but 1?(Assume that 1 bottle was broken and was discarded prior to
> > the customer returning the containers)
>
> That was exactly my question. How to best modelize such a configuration to
> be
> most flexible. If you think for a supermarket, they want just to have one
> input
> for one crate incl. bottles. If a bottle is broken, it must be possible
> to handle it separately.
> It will be good to have the input from someone familiar with business
> logistics to see if there are other corner cases in handling of empties.
> So far I am seeing empties as products with individual accounting. Composed
> empties are like composed products. But I am not sure, I am not expertised
> in
> logistics.
>

Right well unless we get more input I think treating all empties(even
composite) as individual products will do for now.


>
> For gift certificates:
> I think it is a complete different subject, that shouldn't be handled with
> negative inputs on sales. So for me no need to discuss this here.
>
>
I think there might be some overlap but we can wait until the end of the
discussion to consider gift certificates. Ie. ignore them for now.


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