Hi team

2011/10/14 Cédric Krier <[email protected]>:
> On 14/10/11 12:29 +0200, Bertrand Chenal wrote:
>> Le Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:48:46 +0200,
>> Cédric Krier <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>
>> > > > Tryton. Our image only starts to be known that we should not
>> > > > change it.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > It's your point of view. :)
>> >
>> > So what is your point of view about the knownledge of Tryton's image?
>>
>> I have no point of view about what people know about Tryton, but a
>> point of view about the evolution of the image of Tryton.
>>
>> Most if not all companies/products have changed (or will change) their
>> image.
>
> There is two factors that generates those changes:
>
>    - Trying to make forget bad image
>    - An new direction for the company/product
>
> I think we are in any of both cases.
>
>> First, this brings some freshness (and shows to people that there
>> is some activity)
>
> If it is the only way for a project to show it is living than it is in really
> bad shape. This will be the worst cases (first point of the two factors).
>
>> and sometimes the change is made to fix issues with
>> old design (nobody is perfect).
>
> You can fix design issue but keep the same spirit.
>
>> Simple example: the gradient at the bottom of the logo. IMO it looks
>> already old-fashioned (gradient are so '09 ...)
>
> So for you the website must change every 2 years.
> I really prefer to spend times to improve the software than having such boring
> discussion on the website design.

I don't think is boring. It's quite productive. A project is much more
than just coding. It's about a multi-disciplinary team that offer
their talents.

So, programmers are good at coding, but might not be good at web
design. That's why I asked Leonardo to give us a hand in this.

Artists / designers are good at making a website looking good. They
know how to combine colors and layouts to make it look great. Then we
can just map the idea to the sphinx platform or whatever you want.

People expressed a positive reaction to Leonardo's sketch. I think we
can and should have several more, so we can discuss which look and
feel is the best. If not, we should go with this one. I believe we are
keeping the spirit of Tryton with this page, and  definitely will
improve the looks.


>
>> and moreover it can
>> not be printed reliably (on T-shirts for example), so it's not
>> consistent.
>
> There is no issue to have declination of the same logo depeding of the
> support. And removing this gradient is not really a change of the image of
> Tryton but just a fix. (Completly different than adding a new color).
>
>> Still in my opinion, one of the important principle that we follow since
>> day one in Tryton is that we try hard to develop code that is designed
>> to stay,
>
> The same for the image.
>
>> but at the same time we are not afraid of change if we see it
>> as an improvement. So, I think we should have the same approach with
>> the image of Tryton.
>
> Except that the code is visible only to the developpers.
> Moreover when such changes happen, we change all the code to work with the new
> design because we can master the code. But talking about external image, it is
> completly different, we don't master it. We already have some issues with some
> guys using old/wrong logo, wrong name (Tryton ERP) etc.
> Changing the image of the project must be done with great caution.
> I don't want that the Tryton project has the image (like some others follow my
> eyes) to change everything on each releases.
> Having a stable image is also a good message sent outside that we are stable
> and reliable (like the release policy, bugfix backport…)
>
> --
> Cédric Krier
>
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