On 14/10/11 15:43 +0200, Bertrand Chenal wrote:
> Le Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:51:33 +0200,
> Cédric Krier <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > First, this brings some freshness (and shows to people that there
> > > is some activity)
> > 
> > If it is the only way for a project to show it is living
> 
> No, it is not. The image of Tryton must reflect his nature, and the
> project is evolving, and so does the image.

For me the project did not change since the begining. I mean the goals, the
organisation, the process are still the same.


> > I really prefer to spend times to improve the software than having
> > such boring discussion on the website design.
> 
> I find talking about design and image rather exciting. It's your
> right to find it boring, but it shouldn't be an excuse to reject any new
> idea on the subject.

I don't reject new ideas. As I already said I'm not against fixing Tryton's
image as soon as it is just a fix. So removing the gradient seems logical as
we have too much support on which it doesn't work.

But I'm against big change in the Tryton's image without good reason.

> 
> > > but at the same time we are not afraid of change if we see it
> > > as an improvement. So, I think we should have the same approach with
> > > the image of Tryton.
> > 
> > Except that the code is visible only to the developpers.
> 
> What about the new search widget? It is quite a radical change.

No, it doesn't change the way the search works.
The proof is that we generate still the same domain.

> > Moreover when such changes happen, we change all the code to work
> > with the new design because we can master the code. But talking about
> > external image, it is completly different, we don't master it. We
> > already have some issues with some guys using old/wrong logo, wrong
> > name (Tryton ERP) etc. Changing the image of the project must be done
> > with great caution.
> 
> 1) Yes, this is why it's important to talk about it.

Of course, so why do you want to change the Tryton's visual image to include a
new color?

> 2) We shouldn't avoid of doing stuffs because they are difficult.

Especially, I fight because it is too easy to change. It is more difficult to
have a clear vision for the long term and it is what I want to have for
Tryton.

> > I don't want that the Tryton project has the
> > image (like some others follow my eyes) to change everything on each
> > releases. Having a stable image is also a good message sent outside
> > that we are stable and reliable (like the release policy, bugfix
> > backport…)
> 
> Come on, we are talking about little modifications, nobody will think
> that Tryton is unreliable or that we try to hide a bad image because of
> them.

I think you are underestimate the impact of adding a new color to the visual
image of Tryton.

Perhaps I'm not clear enought about my concern on a new color.
I'm not against having other colors in the Tryton website, we already got
somes. For example the news box for RSS feeds but it is different of the one
of "Tryton Store". This is right because they have different semantic/purpose.
But the current proposal adds a new color all over the website (if I
understand it well), so such design makes this color full part of the visual
image of Tryton.

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