On 19/11/11 19:34 -0300, Luis Falcon wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Cédric Krier <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 19/11/11 17:26 -0300, Luis Falcon wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Cédric Krier <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > On 28/09/11 19:31 +0200, Cédric Krier wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I was looking at Elveos [1] and I thought that it could be a good place > >> >> to get > >> >> some Tryton features collaboratively funded. > >> >> What do you think? Should we promote it on the website? > >> > > >> > Here is a proposal to promote elveos on the Tryton website: > >> > > >> > http://moretus.b2ck.com:8000/ > >> > > >> > What do you think? > >> Having it on your B2CK is your decision. > > > > This is not only for B2CK! Anyone is *free* to make an offer for any > > feature request or to ask for any one. And the system is controled by a > > third party, not B2CK. > Sure. That's just what I said. It's your decision. It reminds me the > OpenERP disastrous "funded projects".
And we just proved that it is working. > > > >> I don't agree with the concept, so I would not put it on the Tryton > >> homepage. > > > > I think we all know now that you don't want to be paid for development, > > but it is not the case for every others. > > But just think about that: without B2CK being paid by different parties > > and customers for almost all the current Tryton's modules, the Tryton > > project would be just a dream. > > > > More over, I don't see the difference between this and the service page > > [1] on which you asked to be referenced. > Completely different story. Thymbra offers services around Tryton, as > B2CK offers services about GNU Health, as both companies agreed and > signed ( B2CK is at the GNU Health services site > http://health.gnu.org/services.html ) > Thymbra will never put an add asking for money to develop something. > So, in the same way that I will never put an add like that in GNU > Solidario site, I don't think that should be in the Tryton homepage. > I would appreciate not to make public private documents between > Thymbra and B2CK, less in a public mailing list. It is not > professional. Send me an private email if you want to discuss about > it. I never talked about any private document. I think you are completly mixing B2CK and Tryton. Please read the second sentence of [1]. As your company is listed, it is public that you asked to be there. But if you don't want that's fine, we will remove it. > >> I think that once the Tryton foundation is created, we can put a > >> "donate" button (with no specific amount) in the Tryton hompage, and > >> fundings will go to the Foundation, which would be perfect. > > > > Not better than any other solutions. > > Except that we have only sale 1 t-shirt in 3 years which was like a > > donation for Tryton as all the benefit was for developing and fund > > the infrastructure. That did not even pay the servers for 1 month. > That is something that has to do with how B2CK deals with their > marketing strategies. You can't blame me or the community for this. I don't blame anybody. I just say that for now expecting such funding without explicit goals doesn't seem to work. Again, you are mixing B2CK and Tryton, the sale of t-shirt had nothing to do with the marketing of B2CK. It was only on tryton.org and for Tryton project. > I think that the Tryton foundation has to be independent from B2CK and > the other service providers, and so it should the Tryton website. I find that promoting individuals or organisation that provides services arround Tryton, will match the goals of the fundation which will be promote, protect and develop. > If > we look for the promotion and protection of Tryton, we should not put > these type of ads, asking for money to develop something. It goes > against development of the system. Why ? > Tryton main portal can not become a > supermarket. What is the problem? > We can (and should) place the names of companies that will provide > service around Tryton. This is in complet contradiction with what you just say above. Please explain me what is the difference between promoting companies that provide service around Tryton and promiting companies that provide development service around Tryton? [1] http://www.tryton.org/services.html -- Cédric Krier B2CK SPRL Rue de Rotterdam, 4 4000 Liège Belgium Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Email/Jabber: [email protected] Website: http://www.b2ck.com/
pgpdKzpUHeUnf.pgp
Description: PGP signature
