Am Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013, 18:51:28 schrieb Cédric Krier:
> On 20/10/13 18:42 +0200, Dr. Axel Braun wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013, 18:22:32 schrieb Cédric Krier:
> > > On 20/10/13 17:55 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
> > > > Am Freitag, 18. Oktober 2013, 15:57:28 schrieb Cédric Krier:
> > > > > On 18/10/13 15:40 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm struggeling to understand the SCM concept in Tryton.
> > > > > > Background is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > following paragraph from the Tryton 3.0 News, which I wanted to
> > > > > > translate:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > If there are late supplier moves when creating purchase requests,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > wizard shows a warning to allow the user to change the date of
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > moves into the future if needed otherwise those incoming moves
> > > > > > will be
> > > > > > ignored. --
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Further explanation I received on this:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When you request the system to compute the purchase request, the
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > by default ignore the late supplier moves (because it considers
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > will never be deliveried). So now, the system will warn the user
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > such moves exist and so the user can take action like changing the
> > > > > > delivery date (because the supplier said it will be late).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So...when I need to deliver gods that are not on stock, and the
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > creates a purchase request, it should take into account my
> > > > > > material
> > > > > > availability date (that is the delivery date plus pick and pack
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > transport times), means the date when the goods should be
> > > > > > available in
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > warehouse.
> > > > > > If I have a standard delivery time for that material from my
> > > > > > supplier,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > get a date when I have to issue the PO latest in order to receive
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > goods in time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, does the a.m. sentence mean...I have already POs with my
> > > > > > supplier
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > incoming goods at a later time than I request (late supplier
> > > > > > move)?
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, you did not receive the goods at the expected date.
> > > > 
> > > > But I can not know this when I create a PO...only after I received a
> > > > PO
> > > > confirmation from the supplier for a later point in time. But then I
> > > > dont
> > > > need a purchase request anymore.....
> > > 
> > > Please read carefully the answers.
> > > You are just not thinking with the time dimension in mind.
> > > There is not just 1 purchase involved.
> > 
> > ..this is what you denied before (see: So, does the sentence mean...)
> 
> I can not see what I denied.

I asked: I have already POs with my supplier and incoming goods at a later 
time than I request (late supplier move)?

you wrote:You are just not thinking with the time dimension in mind. There is 
not just 1 purchase involved.

This exactly what I asked. I can not know if my goods are late unless I have 
received some kind of confirmation back from supplier. To receive a 
confirmation, I have to issue a Purchase order.
But maybe we have a misunderstanding in wording: A purchase request is a 
request to purchase goods. It may be linked to some authorisation and approval 
workflows. 
In case a purchase request is confirmed, it is linked to a vendor (sourcing) 
and transformed into a purchase order. Now this PO can have a later delivery 
date than what I requested, which affects my ability to deliver in time to the 
customer -> I need to reschedule my sale to the customer.
 
> > > > > > or does it
> > > > > > mean, basing on my standard delivery times the goods will not hit
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > warehouse in time,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nothing can be deduced except that goods are not delivery at the
> > > > > expected date.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm...still not clear. Do we have a process description? That may
> > > > help.
> > > 
> > > Which process ?
> > 
> > The one we are dicussing here, and the proposed improvement in Tryton 3.0
> 
> The process did not change at all. A warning was just added.

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