问网关 mac 的 ARP 的包很多,这个现象并不必然说明问题是私设 IP 造成的。

私设 IP,只要这个人私设的 IP 不是网关的 IP,顶多就是冲突掉另一个用户,不会造成大规模的用户故障。

询问网关的 ARP 包多,恰恰说明大面积用户经常出现与网关连通出现故障的问题(正是因为连不上了,所以才去用 ARP 
问)。所以要调查你们的交换机和网关的连通性的问题,先从物理线路查起。

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> 在 2016年4月21日,14:30,杨海宇 <[email protected]> 写道:
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> 在 2016年4月20日星期三 UTC+8下午2:03:55,Justin Wong写道:
>> 话不能这么说,大家都是学生。TUNA 这么多项目,也没赚过一分钱,都是技术兴趣。
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>>>>>>>> 我是热能系的硕士,潜水N年。现在李兆基大楼网络有很多问题,到网关和同网段ip丢包严重,平均60%。经常性出现ip冲突。因为负责网络的人非常不靠谱,只好找金枪鱼求助,恳请有时间的巨巨来指导一下。
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> 确实有非常多到网关的arp请求。而且还看到了duplicate use of xxx. 
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> 我们系自己的学生网管建议过别的学生和老师如果dhcp分不到ip,就自己手动设置一个。。。所以现在肯定有一些人的ip是自己设置的静态ip,不是从dhcp那里拿到的。会不会与问题有关?
> 自己试了一下,给自己设置一个静态ip是可以用的,但是我要求华三的人在所有楼层交换机上打开dhcp 
> snooping了(可能并不是华三的人,只是个代理商或者只是给大楼建网络的公司的人)。
> 上次的问题是有人把路由器接反了,导致很多人分到了192.168.0.1/24的私有ip,打开了dhcp 
> snooping之后没再出现这种问题。难道是华三的这个功能我理解错了?或者干脆就没有打开?
> 华三某配置指南上有写:
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> 功能(本例为缺省 VLAN 1 内),基于 DHCP Snooping 表项对用户进行合法性检查,保证合法用户可以正常转发报文
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> dhcp snooping和ARP Detection是什么关系?
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> PS:话说为什么回复不能加附件了。。。粘贴了一些抓包的结果
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> 7451  76.294550000    Giga-Byt_44:29:8f       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 101.6.62.1?  Tell 101.6.62.195 (duplicate use of 101.6.62.195 
> detected!)
> 7453  76.332446000    Micro-St_b4:a0:85       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 101.6.62.1?  Tell 101.6.62.233
> 7454  76.334221000    SuperMic_6c:a8:1b       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 101.6.62.1?  Tell 101.6.62.91
> 7458  76.351186000    Tp-LinkT_e8:79:f4       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 192.168.1.105?  Tell 192.168.1.1 (duplicate use of 192.168.1.1 
> detected!)
> 7466  76.377746000    WistronI_b3:79:99       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 101.6.62.1?  Tell 101.6.62.176
> 7475  76.576748000    Dell_ae:c3:97   Broadcast       ARP     60      Who has 
> 101.6.62.1?  Tell 101.6.62.62
> 7482  76.676673000    HewlettP_5a:54:b7       Broadcast       ARP     60      
> Who has 101.6.62.145?  Tell 101.6.62.148
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