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这个问题你修好了反而越权，给自己惹麻烦。 Sent from Android On Apr 21, 2016, 17:38, at 17:38, "杨海宇" <[email protected]> wrote: >谢谢巨巨，泪流满面。。。 > >> 你是否能得到楼里的网络拓扑？ >已经李兆基大楼物业沟通过e^N次，物业说要找基建处，基建处说要找华三，华三说我们只是卖设备的，你们应该找物业。。。。 > >> 交换机权限之类？ >只有华三的人有权限，他们表示再来现场要收费了，物业表示不想花钱 > >> 比如不同楼层是否在一个vlan >问题很复杂，vlan是按系划分的，同一个楼层即使隔壁也可能在不同vlan下。 > >> （说一下电子系网管老师解决全楼ARP故障的方法：用二分切断交换机法确定故障楼层，再继续用二分断网法确定攻击源…… >。。。。难道没有什么在交换机上配置的方法么，记得巨巨你说dhcp snooping是可以的？ > > > >网管给我们的解决方法是：如果分不到ip，自己给自己手动设置一个ip别管dhcp。这样是不是等于手动arp欺骗了？ >而且我们系网管每个月拿着钱我都没见他来现场过，md。 > > >在 2016年4月21日星期四 UTC+8下午4:32:57，Justin Wong写道： >> 你是否能得到楼里的网络拓扑？交换机权限之类？ >> >> >> 比如不同楼层是否在一个vlan或者一个交换机下？是否存在一个出现这个问题的最大子树？ >> >> >> >> >> （说一下电子系网管老师解决全楼ARP故障的方法：用二分切断交换机法确定故障楼层，再继续用二分断网法确定攻击源…… >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016, at 16:27, Iridium Yang wrote: >> >> >> 请教如何检查链路问题？我还是觉得链路没有问题，毕竟N个实验室都有相同的问题。。 >> >> >> >> 另外我用XArp确实检测到了大量大量的arp攻击 >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wong <[email protected]>于2016年4月21日周四 下午2:53写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 王邈说的是对的，应该先查二层连接是否正常，收到大量ARP请求，可能说明楼层一级的接入交换机到网关之间的链路出现问题。 >> >> >> >> >> >> p.s. 跑个题，尽量不要在邮件底部回复，有些折叠不太智能的客户端要找好久…… >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016, at 14:36, Wang Shanker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> 问网关 mac 的 ARP 的包很多，这个现象并不必然说明问题是私设 IP 造成的。 >> >> >> >> >> >> 私设 IP，只要这个人私设的 IP 不是网关的 IP，顶多就是冲突掉另一个用户，不会造成大规模的用户故障。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 询问网关的 ARP 包多，恰恰说明大面积用户经常出现与网关连通出现故障的问题（正是因为连不上了，所以才去用 ARP >问）。所以要调查你们的交换机和网关的连通性的问题，先从物理线路查起。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 本邮件具有数字签名，敬请核对。 >> >> >> 王邈 >> 清华大学计算机科学与技术系 >> 电话：+86 130-5186-7712 >> 通信地址：北京市海淀区清华大学紫荆公寓2号楼307A 100084 >> >> Please verify the digital signature attached with the e-mail. >> Miao Wang >> Department of Computer Science and Technology, Tsinghua University >> Tel.: +86 130-5186-7712 >> Add.: Room 307A, No.2 Zijing Building, Tsinghua University, Peking. >P.R.C. 100084 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月21日，14:30，杨海宇 <[email protected]> 写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月20日星期三 UTC+8下午2:03:55，Justin Wong写道： >> >> >> 话不能这么说，大家都是学生。TUNA 这么多项目，也没赚过一分钱，都是技术兴趣。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 如果真要按报酬来，业界标准￥100-200/hr，可能我们两小时解决了，也就几百块钱。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 跑题了，敢问楼主的问题解决的怎样？ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016, at 13:34, Xin Yue wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 说句良心话，华三都搞不定的问题，巨巨给你解决了，才只是帮助争取一下勤工助学的报酬。。。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Across the Great Wall we can reach every corner in the world" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月20日 下午1:25，Justin Wong <[email protected]>写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 抓住个滥用ARP的现行 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016, at 13:24, Sam Stoelinga wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 你可以试试分配IP后，保证IP不会被别人抢了，通过不停的发ARP broadcast。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> arping -I enp0s25 -U -b 166.111.144.152 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 166.111.144.152 should be IP that the dhcp server gave you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2016-04-19 16:11 GMT+08:00 Wang Shanker <[email protected]>: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 这么搞也可以防止 arp 攻击。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月19日，16:10，Justin Wong <[email protected]> 写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 打开DHCP snooping可以禁止手动设置IP，ARP攻击怎么防我还真不知道 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 16:09, 杨海宇 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月19日星期二 UTC+8下午4:03:26，Justin Wong写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 难道说因为 IP 不够分引起了一些人不爽所以发起 ARP 攻击抢 IP？ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Justin Wong >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 16:01, Wang Shanker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 不会，如果 ip 分光了， dhcp 服务器会拒绝继续分配 ip 地址，不会出现时断时续的问题。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 发自我的 iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月19日，15:59，杨海宇 <[email protected]> 写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 有同学觉得是ip地址不够分配了，毕竟我们整个系只有/24一个段。可是如果是ip不够用会是这个现象吗？ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2016年4月19日星期二 UTC+8下午2:06:19，杨海宇写道： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 各位巨巨好， >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >我是热能系的硕士，潜水N年。现在李兆基大楼网络有很多问题，到网关和同网段ip丢包严重，平均60％。经常性出现ip冲突。因为负责网络的人非常不靠谱，只好找金枪鱼求助，恳请有时间的巨巨来指导一下。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >李兆基大楼现在是机械学院很多系的系馆，包括热能系汽车系训练中心。目前环境是光纤到实验室，实验室自己配置交换机。不同系在不同vlan下面，热能系ip段101.6.62.1/24，汽车系166.111.144.1/24（不确定）。行政上，网络由华三提供的解决方案，出问题应该由大楼物业负责，然而物业的网管师傅水平很渣，只会检查网线和光纤通不通。华三的人也来过，但没有查出什么问题。现在的问题是到网关和同网段ip丢包严重（mtr结果在后面），热能系、汽车系不同实验室都存在相同的问题，应该能排除自己交换机的问题。不知道如果是可供使用的ip不够，是否会出现这个问题？ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >实验室老板让我看看怎么搞，我说另请高明吧，我实在也不是谦虚。老板说系里决定了，由你负责解决。我当时并没有念诗，所以只好求助网管会的各位巨巨。需要巨巨们到现场看一下环境，排查一下问题。如果需要的话，我会和老板争取一下报酬，通过勤工助学的方式给巨巨一些补贴。 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 如果哪位巨巨有时间有兴趣，请联系我：15210582389，微信：yang_hai_yu，email: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [email protected] / [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 一些结果： >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TUNA 主邮件列表" group. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from 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PS：话说为什么回复不能加附件了。。。粘贴了一些抓包的结果 >> >> >> >> >> >> 7451 76.294550000 Giga-Byt_44:29:8f Broadcast ARP 60 Who has >101.6.62.1? Tell 101.6.62.195 (duplicate use of 101.6.62.195 >detected!) >> >> >> 7453 76.332446000 Micro-St_b4:a0:85 Broadcast ARP 60 Who has >101.6.62.1? Tell 101.6.62.233 >> >> >> 7454 76.334221000 SuperMic_6c:a8:1b Broadcast ARP 60 Who has >101.6.62.1? Tell 101.6.62.91 >> >> >> 7458 76.351186000 Tp-LinkT_e8:79:f4 Broadcast ARP 60 <spa > >-- > >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TUNA 主邮件列表" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to [email protected]. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TUNA 主邮件列表" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
