Martin Jericho wrote:

>This mailing list has very low volume.  
>
I think one of the reasons it is low volume is that some torque issues 
often come up and are resolved on the turbine mailing list.  Personally 
I store all the turbine and torque mails in one folder, so I hadn't 
noticed the low volume.

>Torque is still a long way from being a stable, fully featured product suitable for 
>the masses.  Are people moving to other tools such as Castor and JDO?
>
I'm pretty committed to torque, I think it will just take a bit more 
time for it to become fully independent from turbine.   I would also 
imagine that it hasn't really got going yet.  The time to assess whether 
the mailing list is low volume will be once a stable release comes out, 
and while that might take a little while I'm  going to keep on working 
on/with torque.

Interestingly (or perhaps not), I've incorporated a version of Torque 
into my own project (NeuroGrid) and by including the appropriate jars I 
get all the functionality I need.  I probably won't try and upgrade the 
torque code in the project until a stable release, but as long as I'm 
getting the functionality I need I won't worry too much when that is. 
 As individual problems come up I'll write patches to fix them and 
submit them (as I did with Criteria/Criterion and/ors).

I guess what I'm saying is a stable release might take some time, but 
there are people who are quietly commited to torque.

CHEERS> SAM


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