On 11/23/01 9:22 AM, "Craig Raw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, > > I have been investigating the differences between Turbine and Struts over > the past few days, with the view to finding a good servlet framework that > can be used with the JBoss application server. It seems to me that you > cannot use Turbine without a database, as it is essential for such tasks as > security and session tracking. This is certainly true of turbine 2.x as we only have one concrete implemenation of the security system and that's for use with databases, but you can still make your own. And in turbine 3.x this will be much simpler as well. > This means that for each new server installation the turbine tables will > need to be recreated, which is not as simple a process as with JBoss's > hot-deploy container management. Again with turbine 2.x this could be a problem, but we have had reports of Turbine working successfully within a j2ee environment. And it will be a lot easier with turbine 3.x. > Also, I understand that Turbine was first > released in a non-J2EE world, but if one is already doing database > manipulation with JBoss it seems inefficient to use Turbine Security over > JBossSX. You could write a backend security implementation that delegates to JBossSX if you wished. > Please note that I am not flaming Turbine in any way, No problem, I'd be the first to admit the many limitations Turbine may have but we're working on getting rid of all of them :-) > it seems a > great end-to-end web application solution, but the advantages of EJB's with > regard to robustness and scalability makes me lean to encapsulating all > database work within their confines. Sure if that's what you require that's cool. Most of us here tend to shy away from EJBs but I would like to have Turbine integrate well j2ee eventually. > If Velocity was integrated into Struts > in some way, it would seem an ideal solution. Geir has already started this effort. I don't believe there is a complete solution but it's getting there. > If I am incorrect in my findings above or have missed anything, please let > me know. What framework do you find best in the application server context? Never used on myself so I don't know, but I know people have done it with Turbine. > > Regards, > Craig Raw > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- jvz. Jason van Zyl http://tambora.zenplex.org http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria http://jakarta.apache.org/commons -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
