I meant Spindle. Currently it is more of a Wizard style, but there are plans in the works for making it closer to a VisualBASIC style of creation (not WYSIWYG, but closer, with component toolboxes, etc).
-----Original Message----- From: Derick Fernando [mailto:derick@;xenocex.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:14 PM To: Turbine Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tapestry By the RAD based design tool, Did you mean the Spindle plug-in for eclipse? Or is there another? Thanks, Derick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: RE: Tapestry > The biggest time that you would want to use Tapestry over Turbine is when > you need to deal with seperate Graphics / Web Design and Programming > Departments. When our company looked at Tapestry, Struts, Turbine, etc. We > felt that the intermingling of JSP, HTML, Java, and Scripts would make it > hard to deal with development in this kind of environment. When you put > non-HTML code into a HTML file, or non-Java into a Java file, you introduce > the potential of someone who does not understand one or the other, damaging > the work of one who does. In Tapestry, HTML is HTML and Java is Java. Our > graphics designers can create a complete website sans functionality or > dynamic content, we can take the result, add dynamic content, and still give > it back to them to completely redesign with minimal work on our part to get > the new look working (usually it is simply verifying that all the SPAN tags > are correct). > > Tapestry's main hurdle to development, most likely like Turbine et al, is > the change in mind set required to deal with MVC. But it seemed easier to > me to learn Tapestry than it was to deal with Turbine, Struts, etc. (Mainly > because Tapestry had a RAD based design tool and MUCH less configuration > files). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex McLintock [mailto:alex@;OWAL.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:42 AM > To: Turbine Users List > Subject: Re: Tapestry > > > I disagree. It is *not* adequately described. I have read all the Tapestry > emails on that mailing list. > > People say it has a component model for building up websites, components > are described in files, components can have actions, but most of the > technical description talks about how it is different to struts. > > What I want to know from Turbine people is when might you want to use > Tapestry instead of Turbine, and why. > > Alex > > At 23:05 21/10/02, you wrote: > >On that different mailinglist it is pretty well described (also by > >Turbine people iirc). the list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >and the archives can be found on nagoya.apache.org > > > >Mvgr, > >Martin > > > >On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 21:25, Alex McLintock wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > On a different Apache mailing list there is some discussion about > whether > > > or not Tapestry ( http://tapestry.sourceforge.net/ ) should be allowed > > into > > > Apache. > > > Putting that argument aside... Tapestry has been described as another > > > alternative to JSP, and potentially nearer to Turbine than to Struts. > > > > > > Has any experienced Turbine developers looked at Tapestry? How does it > > compare? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, > > e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > >For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > Openweb Analysts Ltd, London. > Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ > Open Source Software Companies please register here > http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/ > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
