The biggest time that you would want to use Tapestry over Turbine is when
you need to deal with seperate Graphics / Web Design and Programming
Departments.  When our company looked at Tapestry, Struts, Turbine, etc.  We
felt that the intermingling of JSP, HTML, Java, and Scripts would make it
hard to deal with development in this kind of environment.  When you put
non-HTML code into a HTML file, or non-Java into a Java file, you introduce
the potential of someone who does not understand one or the other, damaging
the work of one who does.  In Tapestry, HTML is HTML and Java is Java.  Our
graphics designers can create a complete website sans functionality or
dynamic content, we can take the result, add dynamic content, and still give
it back to them to completely redesign with minimal work on our part to get
the new look working (usually it is simply verifying that all the SPAN tags
are correct).

Tapestry's main hurdle to development, most likely like Turbine et al, is
the change in mind set required to deal with MVC.  But it seemed easier to
me to learn Tapestry than it was to deal with Turbine, Struts, etc.  (Mainly
because Tapestry had a RAD based design tool and MUCH less configuration
files).



-----Original Message-----
From: Alex McLintock [mailto:alex@;OWAL.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:42 AM
To: Turbine Users List
Subject: Re: Tapestry


I disagree. It is *not* adequately described. I have read all the Tapestry
emails on that mailing list.

People say it has a component model for building up websites, components
are described in files, components can have actions, but most of the
technical description talks about how it is different to struts.

What I want to know from Turbine people is when might you want to use
Tapestry instead of Turbine, and why.

Alex

At 23:05 21/10/02, you wrote:
>On that different mailinglist it is pretty well described (also by
>Turbine people iirc). the list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>and the archives can be found on nagoya.apache.org
>
>Mvgr,
>Martin
>
>On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 21:25, Alex McLintock wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > On a different Apache mailing list there is some discussion about
whether
> > or not Tapestry ( http://tapestry.sourceforge.net/ ) should be allowed
> into
> > Apache.
> > Putting that argument aside... Tapestry has been described as another
> > alternative to JSP, and potentially nearer to Turbine than to Struts.
> >
> > Has any experienced Turbine developers looked at Tapestry? How does it
> compare?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Alex
> >
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