Hi,

On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 15:27, Bill wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 17:59, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
> > Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > >So where did the features these services provided go?...
> > 
> > Logging got replaced with integrated Log4j support in the Turbine core.
> > We now load a Log4j config file at startup and provide Log4j support.
> > The o.a.t.util.Log class is kept but deprecated for the 2.3 release and
> > will provide code compatibility. It will go post-2.3
> 
> Thanks I eventually turned up the doc I needed.
> 
> > Resources got replaced by using commons-configuration everywhere in the
> > code. The o.a.t.services.TurbineResources facade is kept for the 2.3
> > release and will go post-2.3
> 
> Configuration is in the Sandbox, and according to the Commons site, code
> in the Sandbox is 'use at your own risk.'  Are we reasonably sure that
> this code is at a stable point?  I'm a little concerned in that I dont
> want to spend the time getting comfortable with this, if isnt going to
> stick around.

As Martin, Eric and I are the main committers to the
commons-configuration component and Eric currently wants to promote it
to commons-proper, I'd say that we can use it safely.

> No it isnt.  All that is in that file is a statement of the change, it
> makes no indication of how/what replaced the services.  This is the
> entry from the changes page for TurbineResources:
>  
> #  removed the TurbineResources Service.

Ok (makes a mental notice to add some docs for that).

> 
> So what was the final decision about the Fulcrum services.  Jason
> mentioned finishing some porting to Avalon components, but I got the
> impression that Henning saw a problem with that.  I just need to know
> what I am in store for here?  Is 'avalonization' where we are going?

Yes, but post-2.3 I see no basic problem with Avalon, I just want to
make 2.3 a release that is "round" enough to stick for a while. The
pre-2.3 Turbine will have many bigger interface changes and I want to
give the users that are stuck on 2.2/2.3 a base on which they can write
their apps while the developers move Turbine forward.

        Regards
                Henning

> 
> And finally thank you (Quinton, Jason, and Henning) for your patience
> and help.  I fell behind in keeping up with the changes to the framework
> and catching up was more daunting than expected. 
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> -b 

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