Scott Tavares wrote:
> 
> again Brett you missed my point. You are obviously the one who knows the
> best way on how to use XML schema so don't just talk about it, do it! What i
> find most embarrassing (and i'm not talking about personally ; )) is people
> that talk and talk then when it comes time to code they all disappear. its
> like when we first started with OPaL, there where at least three of four
> other people who said they wanted to contribute this, i have that, it should
> be done this way ect. and so far its been me and George.

OK, we are getting closer to us making something good here ;-)

I will work with you as much as I can on the code.  I will say,
unapologetically, that I am swamped.  Yes, I know that's a cop out, but
I am going 1.0 with a major product at work in the next week, writing a
book (however unimportant you may think that is, it still takes a lot of
time!), and doing consulting for another company; add that to starting
work on Exolab's EJB Server and helping Stefano on the Cocoon sitemap,
and I can't make any guarantees.  However, point taken, and I will at
least be very helpful in design, maybe coming up on coding as my plate
clears some.

> 
> I do agree with you on the point of the "...push the envelope..." factor, it
> was a big mistake for me not to realize that my adamants (is that a word?)
> on using the DTD was indeed counter to this and for that i'm sorry.

Cool, then we agree on that... as I said, and I think you think, we are
getting closer (see, aren't these heated discussions almost always
productive?).

> 
> To be honest, what really "...riled me up..." about your previous post was
> your pretentious use of name dropping and posturing your credentials, like
> that was suppose to intimate me into submission. for that, i believe you owe
> me an apology because it was plain out rude.

I listed that list of names (many of which I don't know) not to add
credibility to me or how great I am, but to show you the importance of
XML Schema.  I won't apologize for it, though; that would be like Nike
saying they're sorry for telling you Michael Jordan wears Air Jordans. 
Name dropping, if you like it or not, adds credibility to new or unknown
concepts.  Yeah, I went into a tirade about what I know about XML
personally as well, and for that I could have probably toned it down a
little; but the idea that I don't know what I was talking about was ...
humorous ... on the subject of XML.  That's probably about as much of a
concession as I'm going to make ... But hey, we don't have to hug to
produce good code ;-)

> 
> what i intend to do next is to re-read the Schema spec and see if it makes
> more sense to me the second time around. I hope you will still be open to
> questions and more importantly to contribute some code.

100%.  This is all I want, and as I said, will stay very active with
discussions and example code via e-mail, and in a week or three will get
involved in the actual comitting side of things...

-Brett

> 
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