"Jan Niklas Fingerle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My point is that if the project is GPLed your may use it and are forced into
> using the GPL as well, if it's close sourced you can't use it at all.

But that's not the point...  I can buy some closed source license.  Some of
them even allow me redistributing the parts I need to make my own code run, so
I can use closed source in my projects.

> So, what's better? Now, Bob complained that CleverHarold is "against the
> spirit of everything else it builds upon". Now, the spirit of the MIT/BSD
> licenses is that I'm free (and even encouraged) to use it in my closed
> source projects, so I fail to see how using those projects inside a GPLed
> project could be "against the spirit [...]".

There's one special thing here: BSD/MIT allows you to be "more" free.  He has
the choice and his user also has it.  They can decide on what to do with the
code as two separate entities.  With GPL, once the code is obtained you're
bound to it.  Being "less" free on what you can do with it.

There are advantages and disadvantages on both cases but... ;-)

> Of course, if you want to distribute your project with whatever license you
> want, just don't include GPLed Libs/Frameworks (as well as closed sourced
> ones...), case closed. All I wanted to say, that the creator

That's the point that Bob pointed out.  With CH one has to take care with how
all of his libraries are licensend, how they interact, etc. not to violate
it.  With a "freer" license you can decide. 

> of CleverHarold is perfectly entitled to distribute his project whith
> whatever licnese *he* wants to use as well. If you don't like it, don't use

Of course he can use any licensing he wants.  But his choices affect the users
of his technology, so it impacts on their projects as well.  This might not be
all that important in many countries, but might be problematic where people
are more concerned with licenses, code, copyright, etc.  Specially inside
companies. 

> it. But don't complain about him excercising the same rights that you'd like
> to have. And yes, you (Jorge) didn't, but Bob's "against the spirit" is a
> complaint.

We're all free to accept, disregard and complain. :-)  Bob has done a hell lot
of things and I believe he has studied licenses carefully before choosing the
one he uses.

Anyway, lets wait and see what happens... 


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Jorge Godoy      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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