Hi Simon On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 10:37 +0000, Simon Hibbs wrote: > I'm sorry this is such a rant, but it's how I'm feeling right now. > > I live behind a corporate NAT/firewall so the automated ez-install > download system is no use. just for my own curiosity how does the fire wall stop you using ez-install? doesn't ez use http on port 80 to download each of the eggs - just like your web browser would do if you manually tried to download each of the eggs?
as another alternative does the nat stop you checking out of the subversion repository? That might be another option? glenn > The only alternative seems to be to manualy > download about a hundred (realy!) little eggs and tar files, not all of > which I may need because many of them are for older versions of Python > or for the Mac, so I have to hand-pick my way through them. But do I > actualy need all of them for the auto-installer to work and pick > through them for me? Do I need all th actuale Turbogears tarballs, or > just the latest one? I'm lost. > > Argh! What's so evil about putting a single zip/gzip file up there for > download? Maybe real developers roll their own install scripts, or > something. This is turning what should be a strength of TG - the fact > that it leverages many 'best of breed' tools - into a serious > disadvantege because if you're not on a bare internet connection you > have to go pickying about to download all these fiddly little bits and > set them all up. > > I've had the download problem with other projects too, it's as though > if you've got an actual job and live behind a corporate firewall you > can get knotted. I want to do an evalution of Django and TG for a > project, but even to take a look at TG I've got to jump through all > sorts of contorted hoops. > > I was going to start with TG as it looks very attractive, and then > maybe look at Django, but as that's just a single dowload and off you > go I think I'll do it the other way around. This is a serious problem. > If I do select TG for a project, the chances are by the time we start > real development I'll have to do this all over again. If the install > process is so awkward, what about the upgrade process? It doesn't > inspire confidence in future version management and maintainability > either. I'm sure the easy install system is wonderful for those that > can use it, but that does me and people in my situation no favours > whatsoever. > > > Simon Hibbs > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
