Ben Sizer schrieb:
> Once the developers have done what
> should have been done long ago, only then can the typical user of the
> framework be expected to have a decent enough understanding of what is
> going on to be able to contribute anything of significant worth.

Any contribution is significant, IMHO. Karl has pointed out a few times now how
 people can help out without having in-depth knowledge of TurboGears.

> Certainly nobody with a stake in this project has a right to start
> demanding docs from people when they haven't even bothered to explain
> the basics.

I think, no-one *demands* anything, we're just asking for help. And yes, I
think it is perfectly valid to ask mere "users" to contribute. That's what Open
Source is about. Give and take. The distinction between users and developers
blurs. If you [2] can't help with TurboGears, help another project. Your Karma
will increase and - who knows - next life you will be re-born as a nice little
mouse instead of a beetle [1] ;-)

Sorry, if I'm  a little bit silly or sarcastic, but it makes me sad when people
seem to forget that projects like TurboGears live through the participation of
everybody and voluntary work. If you think, using TurboGears has helped you in
some way, why don't you consider in giving something in return?


Chris

[1] Not that I want to diminish the ecological value of beetles in any way.
[2] I don't mean you, Ben, personally. Read this as a generic "you".

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