Am 24.11.2010 21:20 schrieb percious:
Where is this work located?  I'd like to get it integrated.  I had
assumed that the work that had gone into making the docs match the
existing website was completed at pycon.

No, last month we talked about improving the layout here in this group, and I posted three drafts already:
https://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/65603fd23816dec

The drafts are not online any more, but the last version of my suggested layout is here:
https://bitbucket.org/cito/tg-docs-21

My problem with announcing when TG will be released is that missing a
release deadline is more detrimental to the community than stealth
releasing.

I think differently - planning and communication is important. Django does this much better, e.g. at http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/ You will observe that they also missed a release, and then simply explained why, and encouraged developers to get their patches in.

> My real life schedule has been hectic lately, resulting in a delayed
release candidate and formal release, so I sort of have to release
when there is time.

But this does not work very well if there are also other developers in the team. Some coordination and advance notice is always necessary in a community project. Also, the 2.1 release was important so it deserved some more polish. Yes, we can always have a 2.1.1 release, but most people try the 2.1 when it comes out and if they have a bad experience with the docs or installation troubles, may never come back. One sprint for the polish and the docs would have been appropriate for 2.1. If we can't manage even that, then this only shows again that it's a good idea to team up with the Pylons folks.

The 2.1rc1 release was cut without anyone moving the open tickets
forward, and the milestone was closed leaving a number of "dead"
tickets.

Seems the same happened with 2.1 again, there are 21 tickets still open for 2.1:
http://trac.turbogears.org/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=2.1

I would be willing to  announce a plan for a release in the TG-trunk
ml, or even to you personally if that makes sense.

On the TG-trunk list please. We really should use that list much more to communicate and get people involved.

-- Christoph

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