Guys

Sorry to be so quiet on this thread! How can I help?

Paul

On 9/27/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seems ok to me.. .may be we could say 'embedded in app servers like Tomcat
> and Geronimo' (just to bring in the connecting that we are doing with other
> Apache projects.   Yes, should be good to talk about Open CSA to throw some
> light on the openess and standardization path that we are treading on.
>
> - Venkat
>
> On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This first part seems like a big improvement to me:
> >
> > "open-source software that simplifies development and management of
> > applications using service oriented approach."
> >
> > I've updated the text on the wiki to say that,  I'm not so sure about "The
> > lightweight, extensible runtime can be embedded or used stand-alone." that
> > may be getting a bit to much in to implementation details, what do other
> > think? Should we mention OASIS Open CSA?
> >
> >   ...ant
> >
> > On 9/27/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is an attempt to clarify the description a bit more.
> > >
> > > Old description:
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > > open-source software related to infrastructure that simplifies
> > > the development of service-based application networks and
> > > addresses real business problems posed in SOA, for distribution
> > > at no charge to the public.
> > >
> > > Suggestion:
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > > Committee charged with creation and maintenance of
> > > open-source software that simplifies development and management of
> > > applications using service oriented approach. The lightweight,
> > extensible
> > > runtime can be embedded or used stand-alone. This software is for
> > > distribution at no charge to the public.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/24/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 9/24/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have reviewed and updated our STATUS file [1] and Status page
> > (that
> > > > > should be refreshed soon) [2] with latest and missing news. Please
> > let
> > > > > me know if I missed something :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks good, it's great that you revived this thread!
> > > >
> > > > Any other task from the Graduation checklist [4] that I could help ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You could maybe start a separate thread to discuss the resolution
> > draft?
> > > > Is
> > > > everybody happy with the description? Also it's a detail but the
> > common
> > > > practice is usually to list people Apache e-mail address (@apache.org)
> > > for
> > > > the PMC as it gives the apache id. You have a nice collection of gmail
> > > > addresses though ;)
> > > >
> > > > Matthieu
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/STATUS
> > > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuscany.html
> > > > > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > > > > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation#checklist
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/13/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm definitely +1 for both graduation and ant as the chair. For
> > the
> > > > > tasks,
> > > > > > as ant mentioned the graduation guide [1] is definitely a good
> > read.
> > > A
> > > > > few
> > > > > > additional details:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  * In your resolution, one of the most important parts is the
> > > > > description.
> > > > > > Don't be too broad, you can eventually expand the scope later on
> > if
> > > > > > necessary (simple request/ack to the board). Right now the wording
> > > is
> > > > > good
> > > > > > but a bit too "fuzzy" I think. It's also good to add a statement
> > > about
> > > > > how
> > > > > > the project can interact or play with other projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * The other important parts of the resolution are the chair and
> > the
> > > > PMC
> > > > > > list. Look like you're pretty much set on that side. You can
> > choose
> > > to
> > > > > > extend the PMC too, and add committers that aren't in the PPMC yet
> > > but
> > > > > would
> > > > > > deserve to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  * Make sure that your project status page is up-to-date [2]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once you're set, you can start a formal vote on the board
> > resolution
> > > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > community. Then you'll ask for the incubator vote. You'll also
> > have
> > > to
> > > > > take
> > > > > > the board schedule into account. Usually meetings are the third
> > > > > Wednesday of
> > > > > > each month so it's too late for this month but you could be in
> > good
> > > > > shape
> > > > > > for October (should be the 17th).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > Matthieu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation .html
> > > > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuscany.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/12/07, Mike Edwards < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1. +1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we start to identify work tasks to get us there and then
> > start
> > > > to
> > > > > > > parcel out work amongst folk on the project?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yours,  Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ant elder wrote:
> > > > > > > > So how about trying to graduate Tuscany from the Incubator?
> > :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We seem close though there are a few things to sort out so it
> > > will
> > > > > take
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > couple of months to get ready.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's a draft proposal at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Draft+TLP+Resolution
> > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > we probably need to work on the description which is just
> > taken
> > > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > website home page: "open-source software related to
> > > infrastructure
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > simplifies the development of service-based application
> > networks
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > addresses real business problems posed in SOA". We also need a
> > > bit
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > diversity in the initial PMC members listed in the proposal
> > > which
> > > > is
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > current PPMC members.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd like to volunteer to be chair.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a graduation guide at
> > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    ..ant
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
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