On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Graham Charters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Regarding Mike's build breaking comment, one of the reasons for
> including this in the main build is to have it break to flag when new
> dependencies are being introduced.  This will help us focus on
> improving Tuscany modularity, but also help us preserve the support
> for running in OSGi.  It will also give us a place to focus on keeping
> the core small.
>
> I now have what I think is the smallest subset of modules, based on
> current dependencies.  My previous attempt took the approach of
> cutting down a distribution, but the latest was created by adding to
> the dependencies of the basic Calculator.  The net result is 47
> bundles, 49MB (33MB felix cache and 16MB third-party jars) and takes
> about 2.5 mins to build and run which does not seem like a big delta
> over and above the time taken to do a full Tuscany build and run all
> the samples.
>
> The sca modules which are installed are:
>
> tuscany-assembly-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-assembly-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-assembly-xsd-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-binding-sca-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-namespace-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-osgi-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-resource-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-contribution-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-core-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-core-spi-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-databinding-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-databinding-json-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-definitions-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-definitions-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-domain-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-domain-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-domain-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-extensibility-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-host-embedded-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-host-http-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-implementation-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-implementation-java-runtime-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-implementation-java-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-java-jaxws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-java-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-wsdl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-wsdl-java2wsdl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-interface-wsdl-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-monitor-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-node-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-node-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-node-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-osgi-runtime-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-policy-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-policy-security-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-policy-security-ws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-policy-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-policy-xml-ws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
> tuscany-sca-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>
> The third-party jars (currently installed in a single bundle) are:
>
> activation-1.1.jar
> addressing-1.3.mar
> annogen-0.1.0.jar
> avalon-framework-4.1.3.jar
> axiom-api-1.2.5.jar
> axiom-dom-1.2.5.jar
> axiom-impl-1.2.5.jar
> axis2-adb-1.3.jar
> axis2-adb-codegen-1.3.jar
> axis2-codegen-1.3.jar
> axis2-java2wsdl-1.3.jar
> axis2-kernel-1.3.jar
> axis2-mtompolicy-1.3.jar
> backport-util-concurrent-2.2.jar
> bcprov-jdk15-132.jar
> cglib-nodep-2.1_3.jar
> commons-codec-1.3.jar
> commons-collections-3.1.jar
> commons-discovery-0.2.jar
> commons-fileupload-1.1.1.jar
> commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
> commons-io-1.2.jar
> commons-logging-1.1.jar
> geronimo-activation_1.1_spec-1.0-M1.jar
> geronimo-commonj_1.1_spec-1.0.jar
> geronimo-javamail_1.4_spec-1.0-M1.jar
> geronimo-jms_1.1_spec-1.1.jar
> httpcore-4.0-alpha5.jar
> httpcore-nio-4.0-alpha5.jar
> httpcore-niossl-4.0-alpha5.jar
> jaxb-api-2.1.jar
> jaxb-impl-2.1.6.jar
> jaxb2-reflection-2.1.4.jar
> jaxen-1.1-beta-9.jar
> jaxws-api-2.1.jar
> jettison-1.0.jar
> json-rpc-1.0.jar
> jsr181-api-1.0-MR1.jar
> jsr250-api-1.0.jar
> junit-4.2.jar
> log4j-1.2.12.jar
> logkit-1.0.1.jar
> mail-1.4.jar
> neethi-2.0.2.jar
> opensaml-1.1.jar
> org.apache.felix.bundlerepository-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> org.apache.felix.framework-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> org.apache.felix.main-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> org.apache.felix.shell-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> org.apache.felix.shell.tui-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> org.osgi.core-1.0.0.jar
> rampart-core-1.3.jar
> rampart-policy-1.3.jar
> rampart-trust-1.3.jar
> saaj-api-1.3.jar
> servlet-api-2.4.jar
> stax-api-1.0-2.jar
> stax-api-1.0.1.jar
> woden-1.0-incubating-M7b.jar
> wsdl4j-1.6.2.jar
> wss4j-1.5.3.jar
> wstx-asl-3.2.1.jar
> xalan-2.7.0.jar
> xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
> xml-apis-1.3.03.jar
> XmlSchema-1.3.2.jar
> xmlsec-1.4.0.jar
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
> Regards,
>
> Graham.
>
>
> 2008/5/15 Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Graham Charters wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've been working on a small sample to act as an OSGi "sniff test" for
> >> Tuscany running in OSGi.  It's basically a cut-down version of what
> >> Rajini has done in itest/osgi-tuscany and only runs the most basic
> >> Calculator sample.  I still have some work to do to exclude all the
> >> things which aren't required and also perhaps move it to use the
> >> latest "1 manifest per 3rd party jar" approach.
> >>
> >> Currently the sample takes ~3 mins to build and run and uses 56MB.
> >> The main space usage is 17.5MB for the third-party dependencies and
> >> 35MB for the Felix bundle cache (61 bundles in total).  The full
> >> Tuscany (itest/osgi-tuscany) using the same third-party library
> >> approach is 151 bundles and 133MB total.
> >>
> >> I'd like to understand whether people feel this would be useful and
> >> whether it is approaching the kind of overhead that would be
> >> acceptable for it to be included in the main build?
> >>
> >> Regards, Graham.
> >>
> > +1 from me...
> >
> > The time and space bother me a lot less than whether it would cause any
> > extra failures.  What plagues me are build & test failures.  They can
> take
> > hours to sort out.
> >
> >
> > Yours,  Mike.
> >
>

Hi Graham

Any idea what the breakdown of that 2.5 mins is?

Simon

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