Kevin M. wrote:

> But a room full of dozens of
> short-order cooks and one video game addict is just messy
> storytelling. It complicates the narrative.

Considering Icarus Base was a military outpost most of the people who 
got through the gate (92 I believe) weren't civilians. Even the cooks 
get basic training (and extra training if they're in the Stargate program).

>  All you can do with something that one-dimensional is
> basic shoot-'em-up stories.

The "need to survive" is a basic shoot 'em up? Very VERY few shots were 
fired in the fist 3 hours (minus the Ha'tak attack on the base).

>> The introduction of the Ori took 3 parts to start (Avalon 1-3) and it
>> still only brushed on a much larger story.
> 
> Also true, and, until I listened to the commentary on the first Ori
> episode and heard it was essentially a pilot for an entirely different
> series (Stargate Command),

I would have MUCH preferred a SG:Command series. I think there's more to 
be learned in the Milky Way that we've been shown.

(and I misspoke. Avalon 1 & 2 then Origin as pt3)

> The three parter was anti-climactic because
> viewers KNEW the characters would survive, 

I don't disagree about the "Red Shirt Conundrum." However they've lost 3 
people including Shooter McGavin...kind of high-profile for a Red Shirt.

We really DON'T know which characters will survive.

> 3 - Also mythology related, try to include something that connects
> this series to the first two, besides the physical gate. 

I'm not sure how you can do this. Destiny is following another ship 
which is seeding planets with gates and obviously the Ancients never got 
there to "seed."

> Not to beat a dead horse, but since we know this series is to take
> place on board the ship, we knew the ship would survive, so that
> eliminated the suspense/drama of the story.

Well...yes but...that's not much of an argument is it? You knew the 
Enterprise would get out of whatever trap/tractor beam/alien being. KITT 
was never going to be severely hurt and Dr Craig would be the voice. 
Hurley will still be a fat tub on that island.

Every show has that key piece that you know won't change from episode to 
episode.

The "problem" is they have a spinoff with no characters from the series 
it's spun off of. There's no one you can care about that you "know." 
That and the tone is a radical departure from the mothership(s)...it's 
an uphill battle.
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