I agree that Redbox is not a source for much more than the latest mainstream 
DVD releases. But a majority of people who subscribe to HBO or Showtime are not 
doing so to watch TV shows or independent films. They are interested in seeing 
the top box office titles in their homes. And for that, both Redbox and Netflix 
can offer those titles sooner and cheaper than the premium services on cable. 
And cheaper than the pay per view cost on DirecTV.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Bruggeman 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] MacWorld's "Hulu Plus" review


  Independent of whatever plan you use, if you want to watch TV shows via 
streaming or DVD, Redbox isn't on the playground.  I have seen some TV discs 
available via Redbox, but it's been very scarce and spotty compared to Netflix.


  David




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  From: Joe Coughlin <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 2:49:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] MacWorld's "Hulu Plus" review

  Because for $15, you get three movies out at a time for as long as you'd like 
AND their streaming service AND you don't have to go anywhere to get it or 
return it. Redbox has its place, but it's not going to really hurt Netflix.


  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Bradford <[email protected]> wrote:

    Tried Netflix in the early days when it was just a mail order DVD service 
and wasn't impressed. I would think a much bigger threat would be Redbox. I 
know of at least three of them within walking distance of my house. And when I 
can go online, find out what's at each location and pick up a movie for .99, 
why would I pay $15 a month to a movie service to see those same titles months 
later? I do subscribe to HBO but, as I said, that's more for their original 
programming than for the movies.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: PGage 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:20 PM
      Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] MacWorld's "Hulu Plus" review


      On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Bradford <[email protected]> wrote:

          I have DirecTV and have had similar offers for years. It seems they 
use the movie services as bargaining chips any time they need to make amends 
with subscribers. More than once I have called to complain about something they 
had messed up (usually on my billing) and I was offered X number of months of 
Showtime for free as an apology. (The only movie service I pay for is HBO - 
mostly for the original programming.)

          I wouldn't be surprised if their offer of a discount on your pay 
services doesn't cost them a thing. I worked in television production for the 
local cable company for 17 years and know that (at that time anyway) the 
subscriber audit for the movie services was only taken once a year, usually at 
the end of the calendar year. So there were all sorts of offers of free pay 
services for a certain number of months to entice new subscribers since all it 
cost the cable company was the labor to hook it up. That is, unless it extended 
to the audit date. Which it never did. Back then they had to send a techie out 
to your house to remove a filter at the pole. Now all it takes is a computer 
stroke. So how much are they really losing to give somebody a couple of months 
of a pay channel for free?


      I don't think it cost them anything to give me the offer, but if say, 25% 
of subscribers with max premium subscriptions cancel because of something like 
netflix cancel over a couple of years, it seems like they might notice that, 
and want to respond in a more systematic way. I am a pretty slow adopter of new 
technology, but not the slowest. I assume a lot of people figured out netflix a 
long time ago, and if I am figuring it out now I would assume a lot more have 
with the last 6 and next 6 months.







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