Again, while this is an interesting discussion, I believe it is based on a false premise. I don't think there is any evidence that any news operation new the actual vote in any state but held back reporting until after the polls closed. The vote counts are not released in any state until the polls close. All they have before the polls close is a guess, based on exit polls, and those guesses are not even close to being valid in any state that is even a little close until they have some real votes to confirm them against.
Each network makes their own projections, and have their own standards. NBC was one of the slower projecting networks Tuesday night; CBS was one of the quicker triggers (I don't know how they compared to Fox, but I doubt they were much, if any slower). Even so, NBC called Ohio, and the election, for Obama at 8:14 PT (according to my contemporaneous notes, which I was publishing on my FB page for family and friends who were in meetings and classes and not able to watch a television that night). From what I can tell, Fox News did not make the call much, if any, earlier than that. They may have called some of the other states earlier than CBS or (especially) NBC, but none of those would have made much difference in the perception of whether Obama was winning the night. One of the slower calls of the night was Nevada, which NBC was still listing as too close to call long after they had called Obama the winner of the election, because I believe they were waiting for enough actual vote counts in I think Clark Country to confirm their exit polling before making a call. Almost all other tv networks had made the call an hour or more earlier, I guess because they were using other key precincts that reported sufficient real vote earlier to confirm their exit polls. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote: > Here's the problem with that logic: of the nine states that could loosely > be called toss-ups, only Iowa and Nevada had poll closing times after 9 PM > ET. Even if they were calling everything as early as is possible, most of > the states that mattered were done by then. > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> One of the best conservative-hosted talk shows is Tim Conway Jr's show on >> KFI. Last night while driving home (OK, while driving to a bar), I caught a >> bit of his election coverage. One comment he made that stuck out was that >> FoxNews was tracking Obama much farther ahead than the other cable >> networks, and he couldn't imagine why. But if I wanted to get out the >> ditto-heads on the West Coast, I'd make it appear Obama was doing better >> than he was in an attempt to increase GOP turnout. Now I didn't watch any >> of the coverage, preferring instead to watch Anne Hathoway in IMAX --I >> mean, "The Dark Knight Rises" in IMAX -- so I don't know if Conway's >> assertions are true. But if so, wouldn't/shouldn't there be a way to call >> out FoxNews for their attempts to manipulate an election? > > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
