On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jon Delfin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thought I'd get 2013 started with a fight.
>
> http://www.newsfromme.com/2012/12/30/another-dave-n-jay-post/


I'm not sure if I have ever fully and adequately expressed on this list how
much I dislike Oprah. Today I watched her for two hours (Colbert and Dave),
and while it was quite distasteful, it was much less bad than I expected. I
thought she was somewhat better with Dave than Colbert, as there were long
intervals when she actually seemed to be listening to him, and interested
in what he was saying, rather than thinking of the next cliche designed to
try and make him cry. Apparently the target audience of OWN is assumed not
to know very much about Colbert, as she seemed to feel the need to explain
his act and persona about 100 times. I have heard apocryphal stories of
people who think that Colbert is being serious on his show, and now I learn
that all 500 of them watch the OWN.

I give her credit - I thought the Dave interview was really interesting,
probably the most interesting I have seen him due. The Leno stuff was put
in its appropriate context, but for me, partially out of professional
interest but also as a long time fan who has followed his development over
the years, the real meat was in his discussion of his use of therapy to
make sense of his "sexual scandal" and his discussion of his depression.
The depression stuff was great, but also pretty much the standard testimony
that one hears from those who have suffered from episodes of actual
depression (and in my job I hear this a lot). But I also talk to a lot of
people who are in therapy for a variety of reasons, and have sought out
interviews of famous people who are asked about why they are in therapy,
and I found Dave's comments here to be not just insightful but relatively
rare. He said something to the effect that he used to think of himself as a
good person, and he wanted to figure out a way to be that good person that
he always thought he was (realizing that his sexual behavior demonstrated
that he was not). Even though he later talked about some pretty serious
depression, he did not cite that as the reason for being in therapy, though
no doubt that is part of it. You often hear people say they want to figure
things our, or make sense of their life, or find meaning, or happiness.
Dave's answer was specific and accurate.

Nice touch to do it at Ball State - universities love that kind of
exposure, and the students get a real kick out of it. I wish that she had
asked him to talk a little more about how, if at all, his sex scandal has
affected how he tells jokes about other celebrity scandals. We know he
still does it, but does he do it any differently, or does he feel any
differently about it? I am surprised that I am going to write this, but I
also wanted her to ask him a little about his father; she had a whole
soft-focus segment on Çolbert's family tragedy that included the death of
his father; Dave repeated what I have heard from him several times before
about his father being the really funny one in his family growing up, but
she did not follow up with asking about what it was like for him when he
died - I wonder if he has let it be known that he does not want to talk
about that?

I know there is at least one person here who knows the answer to this
question: Who were the two guests already seated when Dave first appeared
on the Tonight Show (they showed the clip, and it looked like James Garner
and some dark haired woman I could not place - maybe Natalie Wood, or was
she dead already?)

One technical question - I have been involved in a few small time media
interviews, and have been surprised how often they have had to stop to
change film - but those were filmed. It looked like (at least with Colbert)
that she kept referring to  something like "lets stop and change the tape";
if it is videotape, do they really have to stop that often to change it? Or
did they shoot like 6 hours of tape that got edited down to the 1 hour we
saw?

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