You are totally correct from a legal perspective. That said, life doesn't
require proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 17:33 Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:

And he doesn't have to prove his innocence.  . . Technically.

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On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote:

If he didn't do this (which requires you to believe that all these women
have gotten together to tell the same lie of a period of decades, but we'll
pass that), then defend yourself in a manner that goes beyond simply
calling them all liars. Holy shit: you're rich enough to hire a legal team
that'd make OJ's look like a public defender's office. Fucking mop the
floor with them.

If he did, then he needs to shut up and go away. He doesn't need to admit
anything at this point. It doesn't matter. The problem isn't that he's
denying it: it's the way he keeps doing it. Seriously. Shut up. Go away.
Your career is over. Play out the string someone other than the public view.

On Tue Dec 16 2014 at 1:30:25 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:

 So what are Cosby's options?  Admit it?

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On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote:


For me, Cosby has bizarrely transcended to this place where I just want him
to go away. Someone suggested that it'd be in his best interest if he just
went into seclusion somewhere far away for the rest of his life, but Cosby
just seems quixotically determined to respond to all this the same way he
always has, expecting others to behave as they always have, except they
aren't. I get the feeling he either has no crisis management people or he's
flat-out ignoring them because he knows so damn best. You'd at least think
his lawyers would be telling him to shut the fuck up. At this point, every
time he opens his mouth things become worse. It's as if the patheticness
has somehow neared the monstrosity of the actions.

   Clay Shirky wrote a book called Here Comes Everybody about the change in
organizing people in the age of the internet. One of his early examples is
the case of the catholic church about ten years ago. ten years ago some
victims of sexual abuse by priests came forward. This wasn't the first time
it had happened and the church had, over the decades, formed a response and
the allegations went away. Ten years ago, though, as the victims went
online and shared their stories, other victims came forward as well and the
church's response failed where it had previously succeeded. As the scandal
snowballed it took a couple of years and court cases until the church
realized that its tried and true approach was causing more trouble than it
was solving.

Cosby has also been dealing with accusations for decades and the response
he developed has always worked. Unlike previous times he's not up against a
single victim acting alone but a large number of victims plus the part of
our society tired of deferring to privilege, whether it's male, rich,
celebrity, or all three. Cosby is determined to stick with what always
worked even if it continues to make things worse for him.


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