And let's not forget the wonderful work of longtime Barbara Gordon Tara Strong will be heard here, too.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote: > The story and brutality aside, the "Killing Joke" artwork by the phenomenal > British artist Brian Bolland is some of the most beautiful in all of > mainstream superherodom. Bolland's artistry in the innovative mini-series > "Camelot 3000" and much of his Judge Dredd work for 2000 A,D, is also worth > seeking out. And hell, I'm interested in any Bats project that brings Conroy > & Hamill back to the roles they voice better than anyone before or since. > > On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:04:15 PM UTC-7, darren wrote: >> >> I don't disagree with your assessment at all from a current day point of >> view, and I'm glad people are now recognizing the problematic parts of the >> story. I just think it is revisionist history to imply that it was "widely" >> criticized at the time or that feminists spoke out against it in significant >> numbers. I worked in a comic book store through most of the 90's and >> regularly attended comic conventions and the praise for The Killing Joke was >> nearly universal at the time. >> >> dg >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Darren Glass <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The comic may be problematic through some lenses, but your description >>>> leaves out the long list of awards it won at the time and the fact that >>>> many >>>> critics still list it as one of the best and most influential Batman >>>> stories >>>> of all time. I think the main knock against it these days is that it's >>>> success helped usher in a very dark and gritty era of comics, most of which >>>> weren't nearly as good. >>> >>> >>> S >>> P >>> O >>> I >>> L >>> E >>> R >>> >>> >>> A >>> L >>> E >>> R >>> T >>> >>> The main knock was the Joker stripping and raping Barbara Gorden, then >>> shooting and paralyzing her, showing photos of all of the above to her >>> captured father. At a time when comics were beginning the slow crawl to >>> embolden strong female characters, this issue showed women as weak victims, >>> and feminists reacted... and continue to react to it. >>> >>> Don't get me wrong; I'll watch the movie when it is released, but its >>> original source material is deeply rooted in a very different era (both in >>> comics and in life). Maybe, as they did with "The Dark Knight Returns" they >>> will tweak it a bit to make it more 2016 and less 1980s. Otherwise this >>> movie will resemble an animated snuff film. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > -- > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- +++++++++++++++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
