Supposedly part of the reason ABC cancelled Tim Allen's show despite decent ratings was his high salary. I bet Piven did not come cheap.
Not sent from an iPhone. On Nov 28, 2017, 2:31 PM, at 2:31 PM, "Kevin M." <[email protected]> wrote: >There is an old Hollywood tale that I’ve never found video of. There >was a >neighbor on the Burns & Allen Show who made a big stink asking for more >money, insulting people on the show, etc. One night Burns walked out >and >calmly announced to the live audience that the neighbor had been fired >and >then they just continued with the series. > >You’d think if a network wanted a show, they could just drop the >character >or recast it. Heck, how long did The Hogans run without Valerie Harper? > >On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:43 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Not clear to me if this is more because of Piven Perv allegations, >or >>> mediocre ratings. If, as appears, they will air remaining episodes >then >>> suggests to me more of the latter. >>> >> >> Piven is not the only one losing his job as a result of cancellation. >So >> it must be the ratings. There might have been a question of keeping >the >> show on the air and hoping an audience finds it, but keeping it going >with >> Piven causes too much damage and trying to find a replacement that >makes >> the show work is too much of a gamble. >> >>> >>> I am sad to say I have seen a few episodes of this show - no loss. I >have >>> read some of the allegations - asshole. >>> >>> I have tried to take a fearless self inventory in light of the >breaking >>> dam of allegations of sexual misbehavior. I know that while I have >not >>> engaged in the explicit behaviors, I have been, in multiple >ways,part of a >>> locker room culture that provides the context for much of these >>> atrocities. I have resolved to do better. But, I swear to the gods >(the old >>> and the new) that since I left high school I have never seen a male >in my >>> real life touch, much less squeeze or grope, a woman’s breasts >without her >>> clear consent. I totally believe that it happens, but as a >cis-straight man >>> who is very fond of women’s breasts, I do not understand where grown >men >>> get the idea that they can do something like that. >>> >> >> I saw it happen many years ago at a work party in a bar. The offender >was >> high energy and drunk, the victim was not protesting (though she >later got >> him fired for it), and even though I felt uncomfortable with the >situation >> I sensed that I would be in a bar fight if I stepped in to stop it. I >> figured that I would not only have to sustain whatever physical >damage was >> caused in the fight but I would also lose my job. >> >> -- >> -- >> TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >-- >Kevin M. (RPCV) > >-- >-- >TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected] >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to [email protected]. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
