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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:43 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > Has Dennis Miller unleashed the jokes yet? > > > https://twitter.com/Eden_Eats/status/991751058752880640?s=19 > > Not sent from an iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:50 PM, "Kevin M." <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Aaaaaand Dennis Miller has weighed in... >> >> https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdmz/status/990505203043463168 >> >> To which TVs Frank replied >> >> https://mobile.twitter.com/frankconniff/status/990627200675311617 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:55 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is not a big deal, but it is the kind of little detail that draws >>>> me down the rabbit hole. Here are the two jokes: >>>> >>>> “I have to say I’m a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in >>>> ‘The Handmaid’s Tale.’ Mike Pence, if you haven’t seen it, you would love >>>> it.” (Joke 1) >>>> >>>> “I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. She >>>> burns facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like >>>> maybe she’s born with it, maybe it’s lies. It’s probably lies.” (Joke 2) >>>> >>>> Neither of these is a slam on SHS’ appearance. Taken one at a time: >>>> >>>> Joke 1: There is a physical resemblance between the actress who plays >>>> Aunt Lydia in the Hulu series (she was on Colbert recently and is just >>>> delightful, so if I were SHS I would be happy if I were being compared to >>>> her in any way), but anyone familiar with the story knows that the joke >>>> here is all about Lydia’s function. Here is the character description from >>>> Sparks Notes, for those not familiar. I think the basis for the joke is >>>> obvious (and devastating, and it is one of Wolf’s best lines of the night): >>>> >>>> *“Aunt Lydia* - The Aunts are the class of women assigned to >>>> indoctrinate the Handmaids with the beliefs of the new society and make >>>> them accept their fates. Aunt Lydia works at the “Red Center,” the >>>> re‑education center where Offred and other women go for instruction before >>>> becoming Handmaids. Although she appears only in Offred’s flashbacks, Aunt >>>> Lydia and her instructions haunt Offred in her daily life. Aunt Lydia’s >>>> slogans and maxims drum the ideology of the new society into heads of the >>>> women, until even those like Offred, women who do not truly believe in the >>>> ideology, hear Gilead’s words echoing in their heads.” >>>> >>>> Joke 2: This is a play on the old Maybelline ad tag line (“maybe she’s >>>> born with it, maybe its Maybelline”). I guess SHS has smoky eye make-up (I >>>> vaguely know that term from watching Project Runway, but I can only guess >>>> what it means), but the joke here clearly is about how much she lies. I >>>> don’t think this works very well as a joke, and is pretty typical of Wolf’s >>>> humor, which I do not find smart or elegant, but kind of lazy. This is >>>> basically just an excuse to yell real loud “Sarah Hucakabee Sanders is a >>>> liar!”, which is true, but not very funny - though it takes a certain about >>>> of course to do that when the woman is sitting 5 feet away from you. >>>> >>>> If people want to slam Wolf for not being very funny - fine (probably >>>> mostly true). If they want to slam her for taking liberal digs against the >>>> Trump administration, also fine (very true but, then, what do you expect?). >>>> But trying to gin up internet outrage over a female comic betraying the >>>> sisterhood by making jokes about another professional woman’s appearence >>>> is, in this case, bulshit. >>>> >>>> A better moral to draw from this and other recent similar events is >>>> that the tradition of roasting the President and other powerful figures in >>>> this way requires an underlying mutual respect, if not personal, than at >>>> least institutional and constitutional, which is lacking right now. This >>>> was already getting to be true in the W. Bush Administration, and would >>>> have been true had there been even B-List comics available during the Obama >>>> Administration. It is profoundly true now. Without a modicum of mutual >>>> respect, comic roasting just comes across as mean-spirited and low-class, >>>> and perhaps we would be better served calling at least a temporary halt to >>>> it. >>>> >>> >>> The reason it comes across as more mean spirited than a traditional >>> roast is the focus of the roast refuses to participate. Traditionally, the >>> person being roasted gets the last word. Trump is too cowardly to lob >>> insults to anybody's face, so the dinner has become one-sided. If he >>> attended, he could speak out in person (at the risk of sounding old-school >>> sexist... that’s what a real man would do), but the coward knows he’d be >>> outnumbered and outwitted, so he makes up the pretense that the dinner is >>> somehow beneath him (he puts ketchup on steak... no dinner is beneath him). >>> >>> As much as the topical humor isn’t for me, I recognize the value of it >>> in pop culture. Just because the bully won’t play in the sandbox is no >>> reason to dismantle the sandbox. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/2yShWRb7L8s >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/04/29/the-harshest-jokes-from-michelle-wolfs-correspondents-dinner-speech/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2e3d7e2012df >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:23 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am wondering why I am reading so much outrage by liberal white >>>>>> women that Wolf made fun of Huckabee’s looks. The maybelline joke >>>>>> was not particularly funny, but it was not a know on SHS appearance. I >>>>>> thought the Handmaidens Tale joke was better - both funnier and sharper - >>>>>> but also not a joke about looks. Am I missing a joke (don’t have the >>>>>> stomach to rewatch)? And if I am missing a joke, why don’t the >>>>>> complainers >>>>>> reference it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Complainers gonna complain. The references to looks that I’ve seen >>>>> complaints about were the smoky eye thing (which is actually a joke about >>>>> where she gets the makeup) and the comparison to the character on >>>>> Handmaids >>>>> Tale (who some interpreted to be a comparison of the character traits >>>>> while >>>>> others interpreted to be about how the character/actress looks). >>>>> >>>>> Huckabee Sanders is a bully who works for a bully (and all bullies are >>>>> secretly cowards). These bullies have not only physically mocked people, >>>>> but they’ve enacted and defended laws that discriminate against people >>>>> based on how they look. So even if the jokes are rightly construed as >>>>> insults on appearance, I cannot muster up any outrage over them. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kevin M. 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