FWIW, the latest episode of the podcast in question dropped within the last
week. Perhaps Hardwick banked a bunch of them before the dispute became legal
action.
On Sunday, April 21, 2019, 5:22:48 PM EDT, Steve Timko
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawsuit over Hardwick podcasts. I found this interesting.
LINK
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 3:27 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
It is interesting that, as Jon has previously brought up, the "Dietland" post
mortem "Unapologetic" was much, much more than a fanboi wallow. Of course, the
series itself wasn't a genre exercise but a satire of attitudes towards
feminism and in many of the episodes Aisha Tyler was turning "Unapologetic"
away from "OMG it's Julianne Marguiles" to a discussion of many things that
have come up in the last year, with strong statements that justified the
opinions-expressed-are-those-of-the-participants disclaimer in the small print
at the end of the credits. In fact, I will say that "Unapologetic" was much
more interesting than "Dietland" and a strong statement for Tyler as a
late-night host on her own, if anyone's got the cojones (and I see she left
"The Talk" last year, thanks God).
Mark Jeffries
Saints Spotlight Editor
[email protected]
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:32 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
I will make a comment, because popular culture, mostly mediated through Twitter
and its cousins, simplifies complex issues.
AMC’s investigation was not about finding Dykstra guilty of lying or of any
wrong doing, or even about proving Hardwick was not guilty of the crimes and
misbehavior she indirectly accused him of. It was to see if there was any good
faith basis for them to terminate Hardwick’s employment. It is quite possible,
in principle, for it both to be true that A) in a civil or criminal trial
things would go against Hardwick, but B) in any real investigation an employer
could conduct things would not go against him.
We obviously can not end up with a culture in which every person accused of
wrong doing is automatically fired. OTOH, as has been made very clear in cases
of domestic violence involving NFL players, we also can not tolerate a culture
in which employers only terminate employees after a formal conviction (if even
then). The only alternative then is to expect employers to set up some kind of
fair and minimally rigorous investigation of their own into the charges.
The criticism that any such employer should be open to then would be about the
fairness and rigor of the in-house investigation. I know just such criticisms
have been made about AMC’s Hardwick investigation. This is where I think the
focus of public reaction should be. None of us are in a position to judge
whether there is enough available evidence to terminate Hardwick, but we should
be given enough evidence to judge the fairness of the investigation, and to
call for a better one if indicated. Employers who select investigators with
bias or conflicts of interest should not be allowed to benefit from doing so,
which should set up pressure going forward to retain neutral, professional
investigative services.
Personally, I am pretty neutral about Hardwick as a performer. I listened to
the Nerdist Podcast for about a year, but a little of that goes a long way. I
never really liked his CC central “game show” that much, and rarely watched it
even when it followed TDS and I had it on DVR every night (my preset recording
of TDS is still set for an hour, from the old Stewart/Colbert days). I have
enjoyed his post show discussions of Breaking Bad, Walking Dead and Fear the
Dead (although the last of those makes really transparent the extent to which
the “Talking” shows are shameless hype-machines rather than fan forums). I have
never been tempted to check out any of his often self-hyped stand up comedy.
Hardwick is an articulate, smooth media personality; most people in the world
can not do what he does, but there are hundreds and maybe thousands of people
who can do it as well or better, and I am sure AMC would be able to find one of
those to take his place if need be.
I don’t care about saving Chris Hardwick’s job or reputation. I do care about
devising some kind of non-legal culture that both provides due process and
protection to people accused of wrong doing while working to ensure that people
employers have a good faith basis for judging have engaged in assulative and
otherwise intolerable aggressive behaviors lose their jobs. Such a process can
never be perfect, but it can get a lot better, and should.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:20 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
Posted without comment
https://mobile.twitter.com/skydart/status/1028006987550810112
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:43 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
<[email protected]> wrote:
It has seemed to me that much of the second act of his career was due more to
his hustle/workaholism and early adoption of new media than any innate talent.
I'd guess he'd have enough money (even before marrying into the Hearsts) from
the sale of Nerdist to not have to work for a while longer, but I could be
wrong.
David
On Friday, August 10, 2018, 11:01:08 PM EDT, Kevin M.
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:56 PM Doug Eastick <[email protected]> wrote:
I just watched him the other night as a guest judge on America's Got Talent.
No matter where I see him, I always just think he's a.... I dunno what it is.
I just don't like him.
No matter where I see him, I always think that hosting a mockish and smug clone
of The Dating Game for MTV was the absolute limit of his talents
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 8:16 PM Steve Timko, <[email protected]> wrote:
Some "Taking Dead" staffers quit in protest of Hardwick's return.
LINK
On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 7:48 PM M-D November <[email protected]> wrote:
>From the linked article:
“I have been adamant since I came forward with my essay that I never set out to
ruin the career of the person I spoke about. I could have provided more
details, but chose not to,” she wrote in a lengthy statement shared on Twitter.
“I have said what I wanted to say on the matter, and I wish to move on with my
life. For that reason, I chose not to participate in the investigation against
the person I spoke of. I do not believe in an eye for an eye, and therefore I
have only shared my evidence with those who I felt should see it.”
—
Uh huh...
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