Is this particular thumb sucker being produced by the news division or the
entertainment division?

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:57 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tomorrow night, CBS is going to run a thumbsucker  (OED:  "a serious piece
> of journalism that concentrates on the background and interpretation of
> events rather than on the news or action; a think piece") on race with
> Gayle King at 10 p.m. replacing one of Dick Wolf's "FBI" franchise shows
> for the night.  One wonders if King is going to bring up all of those cop
> shows that drive the Nielsens  at CBS (yeah, along with Chuck Lorre sitcoms
> and "Survivor").
>
> Mark Jeffries
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> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:24 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Wolf’s comment is typical of producers of cop shows, but it also
>> contrasts nicely with TV shows about defense attorneys, which periodically
>> are poplar - and connects nicely with our thread about Perry Mason, a show
>> in which the people arrested initially by the police are almost never
>> guilty (at least of the crime they are charged with). Mason often (not
>> always) is defending affluent white people (maybe more often less powerful
>> members of the family and social circles around rich and powerful men - the
>> women, assistants, unfavored children and family members in their lives. In
>> the 60s and 70s there were more shows about defending innocent poor and
>> minorities unjustly charged with serious crimes. It would be great if we
>> could cycle back into defense lawyer shows.
>>
>> There have also been some very good cop shows that paid more attention to
>> the complexities and imperfections of policing - in different ways, Hill
>> Street Blues, NYPD Blue, The Shield.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:55 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of thoughts off the back of some of this thread.
>>>
>>> If you've not listened to it, give the podcast "Running from COPS" a
>>> listen. There are only six episodes, but they really get into some of the
>>> massive issues seemingly harmless shows like COPS and more recently Live PD
>>> bring with them. In particular, running disclaimers, but then showing
>>> people being arrested for crimes they didn't actually commit because the
>>> shows don't bother much with the aftermath of the arrest sequence. And
>>> they're re-run eternally. The podcast did run a brief update last week in
>>> light of the current protests.
>>>
>>> The other things was a line in the ex-chief's newsletter this week:
>>>
>>> 'I once asked Law & Order creator Dick Wolf why there’s never a
>>> storyline about wrongful conviction on his shows. “Usually the guy they
>>> arrest did it,” was his response.'
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Had just spotted that on Variety as well.  B
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