Yeah, save the red meat for the VP debates.  It won't be Warren-Bloomberg in 
Vegas, but it has the potential to be brutal.
David

    On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 7:33:01 PM EDT, PGage <[email protected]> 
wrote:  
 
 The Debates are one of the set pieces in uS presidential campaigns that can 
make a significant impact, but I agree that with Trump involved they are 
unlikely to. If they do, it will only be because Biden does something that 
reinforces the narrative that his health/cognition has deteriorated. As has 
been discussed here in the past, Trump is immune. Unlike any other modern 
political figure, he pays no political price for lying, even when caught. He 
pays no price for being ignorant or incompetent. There are voters every cycle 
(3-7%) who in October are still not sure who they will vote for, and many of 
these are typically influenced ny debate performance. But I doubt there is even 
1% this cycle who were considering Trump, but will be turned off because of 
lies he tells or ignorance He reveals during these debates.
Since Biden can only be hurt by Debates, it would be expedient for him to avoid 
them, but doubt there is any way to do that without fanning the flames about 
him. My advice to him: Dont try to win, or mop the floor with Trump. Have 2 or 
3 points to make each debate (1 of which is “who do you trust to keep you safe 
from COVID.? And the another is “I will save Social Security and Medicare) And 
be happy with a draw.
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:26 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 3:36 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Chris Wallace, 9/29 in Cleveland (traditional format)
Susan Page, USA Today, 10/7 in Salt Lake (the veep candidates)
Steve Scully, C-SPAN, 10/15 in Miami (the town hall)
Kristin Welker, 10/22 in Nashville (traditional)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foxs-chris-wallace-nbcs-kristen-welker-c-spans-steve-scully-and-usa-todays-susan-page-tapped-as-presidential-debate-moderators
 (link)


Does anybody think the debates this year will have any value. There's only one 
thing we know for sure and it's that Trump will repeatedly lie and refuse to 
back down even if the moderators show video proving it. I guarantee you Trump 
is going to say that in health insurance policy he is going to protect patients 
with pre-existing conditions and Biden will end those protections in 
contravention to reality. Biden may even say that Trump is lying but Trump will 
continue to repeat the lie. In that case how meaningful is a debate? There is a 
lot in the way we do national elections which is useless and even damaging but 
we stick with the status quo so that we don't slip into chaos and end up with 
empty rituals instead. That's true about the endless slog before the primaries, 
making Iowa and New Hampshire the early primary states, the conventions, and 
now the debates. 











  

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