(looks over at "PUBLIC SCHOOL MADE ME" sticker on the whiteboard in the office I share with my seven year old)
(deep, longing sigh) I know Camelot is JFK's song, but it, along with my son's love of pinky promises, will always remind me of the first presidential candidate I loved. On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 18:44 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, save the red meat for the VP debates. It won't be Warren-Bloomberg > in Vegas, but it has the potential to be brutal. > > David > > On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 7:33:01 PM EDT, PGage <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > The Debates are one of the set pieces in uS presidential campaigns that > can make a significant impact, but I agree that with Trump involved they > are unlikely to. If they do, it will only be because Biden does something > that reinforces the narrative that his health/cognition has deteriorated. > As has been discussed here in the past, Trump is immune. Unlike any other > modern political figure, he pays no political price for lying, even when > caught. He pays no price for being ignorant or incompetent. There are > voters every cycle (3-7%) who in October are still not sure who they will > vote for, and many of these are typically influenced ny debate performance. > But I doubt there is even 1% this cycle who were considering Trump, but > will be turned off because of lies he tells or ignorance He reveals during > these debates. > > Since Biden can only be hurt by Debates, it would be expedient for him to > avoid them, but doubt there is any way to do that without fanning the > flames about him. My advice to him: Dont try to win, or mop the floor with > Trump. Have 2 or 3 points to make each debate (1 of which is “who do you > trust to keep you safe from COVID.? And the another is “I will save Social > Security and Medicare) And be happy with a draw. > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:26 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 3:36 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Chris Wallace, 9/29 in Cleveland (traditional format) > > Susan Page, *USA Today*, 10/7 in Salt Lake (the veep candidates) > > Steve Scully, C-SPAN, 10/15 in Miami (the town hall) > > Kristin Welker, 10/22 in Nashville (traditional) > > > https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foxs-chris-wallace-nbcs-kristen-welker-c-spans-steve-scully-and-usa-todays-susan-page-tapped-as-presidential-debate-moderators > (link) > > > Does anybody think the debates this year will have any value. There's only > one thing we know for sure and it's that Trump will repeatedly lie and > refuse to back down even if the moderators show video proving it. I > guarantee you Trump is going to say that in health insurance policy he is > going to protect patients with pre-existing conditions and Biden will end > those protections in contravention to reality. Biden may even say that > Trump is lying but Trump will continue to repeat the lie. In that case how > meaningful is a debate? There is a lot in the way we do national elections > which is useless and even damaging but we stick with the status quo so that > we don't slip into chaos and end up with empty rituals instead. That's true > about the endless slog before the primaries, making Iowa and New Hampshire > the early primary states, the conventions, and now the debates. > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1996555306.1512801.1599954281224%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1996555306.1512801.1599954281224%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CABru7%2BfUAV8Y2Eb_9XdTTXStET%3DdzROoSQ%2B6b%3DFig2u6B%3DQWJg%40mail.gmail.com.
