Worth a read https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jaysondbradley/2021/02/cancel-culture/
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021, 2:41 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > 1. Actions have consequences, and freedom to express yourself is not > freedom from those consequences. I lost a job I loved for 30 years because > I spoke out in favor of gay marriage, and did so knowing that was a > possibility. > > 2. My values include being as tolerant as possible for unpopular speech. > Short of causing actual harm, I think if someone does a good job they > should be able to keep their job, even if they hold beliefs I really > disapprove of. > > 3. The ambiguity is over the question of harm. A physician or police > officer who posts online that Jews or Muslims or whoever are not fully > human and don’t deserve to live raises reasonable questions about harm that > might be done to the target group if they did not exercise their duties > with full care. Actors are not as likely to be a source of harm. Still, if > an actor in a minor role says something that deeply offends an actor in a > major role (as is apparently the case here), or says something that hurts > and angers large fractions of the audience, it is understandable the > employer may not want to hire them again. > > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 1:29 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:22 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've got to say that I found this by SF author John Scalzi, to be pretty >>> much where I am on being "cancelled": >>> >>> >>> https://whatever.scalzi.com/2021/02/13/general-unstructured-thoughts-on-being-cancelled/ >>> >>> >> For all I know, Benedict Cumberpatch is a Satanic cult leader who has >> eight different children from eight different women, none of whom he pays >> child support for. By avoiding social media, the focus is on his work, and >> his value as an actor is on his skill/talent instead of his social media >> following. >> >> I’m not amongst those who think actors should shut up and never discuss >> politics, but when they do speak out on social issues, they should do so >> fully aware that in spite of humanity’s better nature, we as a species >> place a higher value on what famous people say/do. If a plumber keeps a >> social media account supporting Nazis or conspiracy theories, it is >> doubtful he will get cancelled because not many people care what a plumber >> thinks. So when a celebrity gets called out for public statements, that’s >> the way the cultural cookie crumbles. >> >> I’ve been part of cancelling people online, and I do so because I believe >> actions should have consequences. I’ve helped try to cancel liberals (Bill >> Maher, Kathy Griffin) and conservatives (Donald Trump, Kirk Cameron). And >> I’ve got my own Grammy nominated stalker because I played a part in >> cancelling her. And I’ve been physically threatened and threatened with >> lawsuits, and all that does is tell me I’m doing the right thing. >> >> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:24 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:15 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It seems they are saying she was not fired so much as not re-hired >>>>> after her contract expired. Is that correct? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think that's a fair summation. That said, her agency has now dropped >>>> her, and it seems her publicists dropped her last year. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://deadline.com/2021/02/the-mandalorian-actress-gina-carano-agency-uta-part-ways-in-wake-of-social-media-controversy-1234691964/ >>>> >>>> But you know, if you got around propagating obnoxious views, maybe some >>>> people won't want to work with or represent you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGBWZSpXs-kB2xQyrFY_dC3ogaYHC8yJvEDV5Mwm63KLtQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGBWZSpXs-kB2xQyrFY_dC3ogaYHC8yJvEDV5Mwm63KLtQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. 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