I think you are letting Cedrick off too easy; he is just not good (at least when he aims for mainstream audiences). I know who Fred Savage is, and 2 of Cedrick’s three TV wives, and those sketches were still extremely unfunny. The Pence sketch was unfunny when SNL did it back when it was topical (but seriously, who let him go that far back for such a hack idea?).
I don’t think TV is too fragmented for a good Emmy’s show, and in fact aside from Cedrick I thought this was a good show. The nominee list (which I guess was expanded) were almost all of very high quality. I consume a lot of TV but still had not heard of some shows (e.g. Pose) or had heard of but not yet seen others (Hacks, which I started watching yesterday). I did see a lot of irritated Tweeters grousing “Who’s Ted Lasso?”, but if they don’t care enough to spend $10 to get Apple TV for one month to watch both seasons (easily done) then I’m not taking the irritation too seriously. A glance through the nominee list for the televised categories only left me stink eyed over a few (I have not seen it, but hard to believe “Keenan” really represents the best of American TV this year). By the end of the show I thought the Emmys had reclaimed their position ahead of the Golden Globes, which may now be an ex-thing on broadcast TV anyway. It’s not clear if any of these Award shows will survive another two years (though I would bet they will), but if the Emmys don’t, I think it will more be that a fragmented audience no longer watches TV events like this, not that television programming is too fragmented to generate interest in recognizing the best content. On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:01 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the problem with all of the skits was the problem with the > broadcast in general* (even if the ratings were up this year): that the > audience has become so fragmented that there's just too many things that > too many people aren't familiar with. > > I mean, I guess to anyone who's watched all of Cedric's shows, that thing > with his TV wives amusing (I can't imagine anyone did, but go with me ...), > but to anyone like me who's managed to avoid his TV work, it was three > actresses chewing scenery badly. Same with the Ken Jeong thing. If you > haven't seen him, you don't know what's going on. (And I kind of like him, > but his act is getting so thin, one can read a newspaper through it.) > > The thing with Pence and the fly was about as topical as Mort Sahl's > material about the Eisenhower administration. > > Even the "I never won an Emmy sketch" (which went on too long) suffered > from "Who are these people?" syndrome. (Poor Fred Savage.) > > > I'm not a fan of award shows, but this one did nothing to help the cause. > It was badly written, poorly paced, and utterly unnecessary. > > --Dave Sikula > > (*Other than the tacit acknowledgment that the medium has become so > infested with British actors playing Americans that they had to set up a > middle-of-the-night soiree in London.) > > > > On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 02:15:11 PM PDT, PGage <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > He really was quite bad. I have seen his stand up, which is better than > his horrid tv shows, but still not really great IMO. I am not sure what CBS > was expecting because as bad as he was, it was just about what I would have > predicted. > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:11 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > They'll probably drag Samberg, Fallon, or Meyers into the swamp, > especially if Lorne is producing. > > Cedric was embarrassingly bad Sunday, so anyone -- even Wiig -- would be > an improvement. > > -- Dave Sikula > > On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:54:58 AM UTC-7 Brad Beam wrote: > > If the current rotation holds, NBC airs the ceremony next year. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:07, Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Personally, I would love to see Oliver crapping on everyone as Emmy > host, but that won't happen unless HBO televises it. If it's Fox next year, > who's going to host? Nick Cannon? Dr. Ken? Chef Ramsay? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1280321a-3064-4e7c-9133-42897e4015bdn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1280321a-3064-4e7c-9133-42897e4015bdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tvornottv/0EVrRlt5NVY/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKZk7mvBBUCq__4aO5AGiVwVkQp-K_mA6k9Gq9%2B6mdXwA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKZk7mvBBUCq__4aO5AGiVwVkQp-K_mA6k9Gq9%2B6mdXwA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/949433257.13469.1632261640945%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/949433257.13469.1632261640945%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLBL1afoMBPHjnu6ehX6Lm%3D1Fj3Xd%3Dn8ZFVnwfD1eoQRQ%40mail.gmail.com.
