Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan Sweeps The Emmys*

[email protected] Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:27:19 -0700

 I think we're already seeing the death of the awards show, if using only the 
Tonys as an example. I generally have an interest in them, even as much as 
they're bowling trophies for work in a very small segment of just one city.

Of course, that broadcast (in recent years, anyway) isn't so much awarding work
that millions of viewers will never see as it is a commercial for shows that
will (theoretically) soon be coming to a performing arts center near you--in an
non-Equity tour.

CBS's decision to cut down the number of awards given on the network is not
unexpected, but is a little disappointing. I'll be watching Paramount Plus for
the "real" broadcast, regardless of the fact that (for the most part) it's a
bunch of recycled schlock that I have no interest in. (I admit I am rooting for
my pal Danny Burstein, who's been nominated six times without winning, and who
suffered the terrible death of his wife last year.)

I would imagine that, the Oscars excepted, because the Oscarcast -- no matter
how awful it is every year -- is an outlier, the other majors will cut down on
the number of televised awards (as the Grammys have already done) in favor of a
reliable time-slot and mediocre banter and skits.
And I've never thought Cedric was funny, and Sunday did nothing to change that
opinion.
--Dave Sikula

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 05:59:27 PM PDT, PGage <[email protected]>
wrote:

I think you are letting Cedrick off too easy; he is just not good (at least
when he aims for mainstream audiences). I know who Fred Savage is, and 2 of
Cedrick’s three TV wives, and those sketches were still extremely unfunny. The
Pence sketch was unfunny when SNL did it back when it was topical (but
seriously, who let him go that far back for such a hack idea?).
I don’t think TV is too fragmented for a good Emmy’s show, and in fact aside
from Cedrick I thought this was a good show. The nominee list (which I guess
was expanded) were almost all of very high quality. I consume a lot of TV but
still had not heard of some shows (e.g. Pose) or had heard of but not yet seen
others (Hacks, which I started watching yesterday). I did see a lot of
irritated Tweeters grousing “Who’s Ted Lasso?”, but if they don’t care enough
to spend $10 to get Apple TV for one month to watch both seasons (easily done)
then I’m not taking the irritation too seriously. A glance through the nominee
list for the televised categories only left me stink eyed over a few (I have
not seen it, but hard to believe “Keenan” really represents the best of
American TV this year).
By the end of the show I thought the Emmys had reclaimed their position ahead
of the Golden Globes, which may now be an ex-thing on broadcast TV anyway. It’s
not clear if any of these Award shows will survive another two years (though I
would bet they will), but if the Emmys don’t, I think it will more be that a
fragmented audience no longer watches TV events like this, not that television
programming is too fragmented to generate interest in recognizing the best
content.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:01 PM [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:

I think the problem with all of the skits was the problem with the broadcast
in general* (even if the ratings were up this year): that the audience has
become so fragmented that there's just too many things that too many people
aren't familiar with.

I mean, I guess to anyone who's watched all of Cedric's shows, that thing with
his TV wives amusing (I can't imagine anyone did, but go with me ...), but to
anyone like me who's managed to avoid his TV work, it was three actresses
chewing scenery badly. Same with the Ken Jeong thing. If you haven't seen him,
you don't know what's going on. (And I kind of like him, but his act is getting
so thin, one can read a newspaper through it.)
The thing with Pence and the fly was about as topical as Mort Sahl's material
about the Eisenhower administration.

Even the "I never won an Emmy sketch" (which went on too long) suffered from
"Who are these people?" syndrome. (Poor Fred Savage.)

I'm not a fan of award shows, but this one did nothing to help the cause. It
was badly written, poorly paced, and utterly unnecessary.
--Dave Sikula
(*Other than the tacit acknowledgment that the medium has become so infested
with British actors playing Americans that they had to set up a
middle-of-the-night soiree in London.)

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 02:15:11 PM PDT, PGage <[email protected]>
wrote:

He really was quite bad. I have seen his stand up, which is better than his
horrid tv shows, but still not really great IMO. I am not sure what CBS was
expecting because as bad as he was, it was just about what I would have
predicted.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:11 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
<[email protected]> wrote:

They'll probably drag Samberg, Fallon, or Meyers into the swamp, especially if
Lorne is producing.

Cedric was embarrassingly bad Sunday, so anyone -- even Wiig -- would be an
improvement.

-- Dave Sikula

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:54:58 AM UTC-7 Brad Beam wrote:

If the current rotation holds, NBC airs the ceremony next year.

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> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:07, Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Personally, I would love to see Oliver crapping on everyone as Emmy host, but
> that won't happen unless HBO televises it. If it's Fox next year, who's going
> to host? Nick Cannon? Dr. Ken? Chef Ramsay?
>

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