For the record, Apple TV+ is only $5/mo, and there's almost always a free 
trial. The catalog is more limited than other services at similar price 
points (Hulu at $7/mo, Disney+ at $7/mo by virtue of a pre-launch 
multi-year offer), but Apple has been aggressively adding originals and 
buying films to fill out the library.

I watched a few episodes of "Keenan" S1; I really like Keenan, and was 
willing to give the show a shot, but it never landed for me - possibly 
because it's too sitcom-formulaic, possibly because it's just not very well 
written, possibly because putting Keenan in the lead role of a modern 
sitcom doesn't give him opportunity for those "[KEENAN REACTS]" moments 
he's famous for from SNL.  Either way, we didn't stick with it, but I was 
happy to see Keenan getting recognized.

Cedric was a bad host.  There's no need to sugarcoat it.  His jokes didn't 
land, he kept calling Reggie Watts by the wrong name, and the majority of 
his pre-tapes weren't funny (although I did like the No-Emmy support 
group...at least until Dr. Fraud walked in.) I get that he's a pillar CBS's 
comedy lineup, but they've also got WAYNE FRICKING BRADY on the network - 
how do you not recruit him for this?

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 8:59:24 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:

> I think you are letting Cedrick off too easy; he is just not good (at 
> least when he aims for mainstream audiences). I know who Fred Savage is, 
> and 2 of Cedrick’s three TV wives, and those sketches were still extremely 
> unfunny. The Pence sketch was unfunny when SNL did it back when it was 
> topical (but seriously, who let him go that far back for such a hack idea?).
>
> I don’t think TV is too fragmented for a good Emmy’s show, and in fact 
> aside from Cedrick I thought this was a good show. The nominee list (which 
> I guess was expanded) were almost all of very high quality. I consume a lot 
> of TV but still had not heard of some shows (e.g. Pose) or had heard of but 
> not yet seen others (Hacks, which I started watching yesterday). I did see 
> a lot of irritated Tweeters grousing “Who’s Ted Lasso?”, but if they don’t 
> care enough to spend $10 to get Apple TV for one month to watch both 
> seasons (easily done) then I’m not taking the irritation too seriously. A 
> glance through the nominee list for the televised categories only left me 
> stink eyed over a few (I have not seen it, but hard to believe “Keenan” 
> really represents the best of American TV this year).
>
> By the end of the show I thought the Emmys had reclaimed their position 
> ahead of the Golden Globes, which may now be an ex-thing on broadcast TV 
> anyway. It’s not clear if any of these Award shows will survive another two 
> years (though I would bet they will), but if the Emmys don’t, I think it 
> will more be that a fragmented audience no longer watches TV events like 
> this, not that television programming is too fragmented to generate 
> interest in recognizing the best content.
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:01 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the problem with all of the skits was the problem with the 
>> broadcast in general* (even if the ratings were up this year): that the 
>> audience has become so fragmented that there's just too many things that 
>> too many people aren't familiar with. 
>>
>> I mean, I guess to anyone who's watched all of Cedric's shows, that thing 
>> with his TV wives amusing (I can't imagine anyone did, but go with me ...), 
>> but to anyone like me who's managed to avoid his TV work, it was three 
>> actresses chewing scenery badly. Same with the Ken Jeong thing. If you 
>> haven't seen him, you don't know what's going on. (And I kind of like him, 
>> but his act is getting so thin, one can read a newspaper through it.)
>>
>> The thing with Pence and the fly was about as topical as Mort Sahl's 
>> material about the Eisenhower administration.
>>
>> Even the "I never won an Emmy sketch" (which went on too long) suffered 
>> from "Who are these people?" syndrome. (Poor Fred Savage.)
>>
>>
>> I'm not a fan of award shows, but this one did nothing to help the cause. 
>> It was badly written, poorly paced, and utterly unnecessary.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> (*Other than the tacit acknowledgment that the medium has become so 
>> infested with British actors playing Americans that they had to set up a 
>> middle-of-the-night soiree in London.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 02:15:11 PM PDT, PGage <[email protected]> 
>> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> He really was quite bad. I have seen his stand up, which is better than 
>> his horrid tv shows, but still not really great IMO. I am not sure what CBS 
>> was expecting because as bad as he was, it was just about what I would have 
>> predicted. 
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:11 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> They'll probably drag Samberg, Fallon, or Meyers into the swamp, 
>> especially if Lorne is producing. 
>>
>> Cedric was embarrassingly bad Sunday, so anyone -- even Wiig --  would be 
>> an improvement.
>>
>> -- Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:54:58 AM UTC-7 Brad Beam wrote:
>>
>> If the current rotation holds, NBC airs the ceremony next year. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:07, Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Personally, I would love to see Oliver crapping on everyone as Emmy 
>> host, but that won't happen unless HBO televises it. If it's Fox next year, 
>> who's going to host? Nick Cannon? Dr. Ken? Chef Ramsay? 
>> > 
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