By the way, here's a 2012 piece from The Atlantic with the headline "It's Time to Stop Using the 'Fire in a Crowded Theater' Quote."
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/ <https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/> > On Feb 4, 2022, at 9:14 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As I posted earlier, I don’t disagree with JS that much. My main disagreement > is with his assessment that Rogan is not an ideologue (perhaps that word is > too sophisticated to apply to Rogan). > > But I do agree that it is dangerous in a free society to start restricting > speech we don’t like - even when we are right. I despise Rogan and Carlson, > despised Limbaugh. But they have a right to spew their filth (as I have a > right to ignore them). > > You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater, you can’t make jokes about bombs in > an airport, so perhaps there are things you should not be able to say during > a deadly pandemic. Let’s specify those things (perhaps something like: “can > not present as fact health information found to be seriously harmful to > public health “, though even that is probably too broad. Under that, anyone > advocating abstinence only sex education would be banned). > > Once you identify a criteria, then you don’t rush to ban communicators, their > employers warn them of violations, and repeated violations lead to > termination. > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:16 AM Doug Eastick <east...@eastick.ca > <mailto:east...@eastick.ca>> wrote: > Agreed. I've been done with him for quite a while now. > > > > /Doug > east...@mcd.on.ca <mailto:east...@mcd.on.ca> > On Fri., Feb. 4, 2022, 4:37 a.m. 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV, > <tvornottv@googlegroups.com <mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > I used to be a big fan of Stewart, but even in those TDS days, he constantly > tried to both-sides almost everything. This is just the latest step in that > evolution. > > --Dave Sikula > > On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 2:51:12 PM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com > <mailto:steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jon Stewart sides with Joe Rogan. > > https://www.rawstory.com/jon-stewart-backs-joe-rogan-as-musicians-continue-to-leave-spotify-this-overreaction-is-a-mistake/ > > <https://www.rawstory.com/jon-stewart-backs-joe-rogan-as-musicians-continue-to-leave-spotify-this-overreaction-is-a-mistake/> > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 1:25 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com <>> wrote: > This is such a stinking pile of bullshit. > > A. It is very unlikely that he will do even the almost microscopically small > steps he promises to take here. > > B. This is not a case of a one man shop inadvertently putting dangerous > material out there. He has been told over and over by ,any experts the > information is false and dangerous, and has shown glee in disregarding them. > If he was inviting Pro Nazi guests (and, I don’t assume that he has not been) > and got spanked by Spotify for tanking their share value while they pay him a > shit load of cash, it would certainly not be acceptable to vaguely promise to > get Nazis who dress better and to invite some non Nazi guests after them. > > C. I am not in favor of banning people like Rogan from social media and > network sites, unless they meet some specific “shouting fire in a crowded > theater” criteria. While there is real choice between Neil and Joni on the > one hand and Rogan on the other, I do wish that those speaking out against > things like COVID and Voting and Election Misinformation would be more > specific and precise when calling for mis-informers to be banned, citing what > really must be extreme cases that meet rare criteria. > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:44 PM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com <>> wrote: > Rogan semi-apologized… claims he’ll book better guests and get better > informed on topics he babbles about. 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