Wow, this is a great clip. What happened to that Joe Rogan?

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdkuXPyW/

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 7:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:

> And here’s an article from a songwriter’s perspective, focused mostly on
> Spotify’s treatment of musicians/artists.
>
>
> https://variety.com/2022/music/opinion/spotify-musicians-revolt-kay-hanley-joe-rogan-backlash-column-1235173047/?fbclid=IwAR2NDo6og7ecfrNLF9ICzcGLhFngrDcemJ_SIgJtmXv6yLfHhklSpt90moU
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 3:20 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unless it can be shown that any company providing this kind of service
>> would either make money from this approach or not lose money/subscribers
>> from this approach, it won't happen absent laws or regulations.  These
>> companies have proven consistently that they are either unwilling or unable
>> to police themselves.
>>
>> I'll suggest that the fetishization of capitalism in this country
>> devalues considerations of free expression. (The expansion of IP laws
>> vis-a-vis fair use and public domain considerations could be a conversation
>> in parallel with what we've been hashing out.)  The free expression of
>> those with money, power, or a platform that has either wins out over those
>> that could benefit from a system that truly values free expression.
>>
>> One way to perceive this discussion is about the gap between where things
>> are and where we think we ought to be.  Regrettably, getting to where we
>> ought to be is more achievable by acting from where we are than from where
>> we ought to be.
>>
>> The last two years have shown repeatedly that money matters most.  Our
>> lives don't matter as much as we want them to, and our ideas and any
>> connection to the truth matter even less.
>>
>> Damn, that's dark.  But I'm not in the mood for sugarcoating.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022, 02:45:22 PM PST, PGage <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If I had the chance to have dinner with Neil Young, I would suggest to
>> him that rather than calling for Rogan to be banned from Spotify, he
>> propose specific guidelines that all speech and music on Spotify should
>> follow (e.g. 1. Do not misrepresent qualifications; 2. Do not advocate
>> treatments which have not been supported; 3. Do not misrepresent the
>> evidence about treatments that have been supported). These guidelines then
>> apply to everyone equally, not just Joe Rogan. Critics of vaccines could
>> still say “I wouldn’t get vaccinated because we still don’t know enough
>> about their long term consequences”, but if a Podcaster repeatedly spreads
>> the message that Vaccines increase infant mortality, or cause heart
>> attacks, or alter your DNA, they would be first suspended and then, if
>> repeated, removed.
>>
>> I guess that proposal would be harder to fit in a Tweet, but I think it
>> would be more consistent with core values.
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