I did consider that, but I have not seen the SF MSA referred to as “The Bay Area”. That SF-Oakland-Berkeley MSA seems to me to be more like “Greater San Francisco Area”.
This site specifically describes the SF-Oak-Berk MSA as a subset of the 9 County Bay Area: https://www.gsweventcenter.com/Website_Refs/00000000u.pdf On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 3:27 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > It's possible that the Academy is working with what the Census Bureau > defines as a metropolitan statistical area (MSA) rather than the larger > combined statistical area (CSA). > > The Bay Area has two MSAs - San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley and San > Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara. The Academy's Bay Area definition comprises > the same counties as the San Francisco MSA. > > The CSA for the Bay Area is even larger than the 9 counties that PGage > listed. It covers 14 counties, including some in the Central Valley, which > strikes me as a little weird (I live in Sacramento). > > David > > On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 02:55:46 PM PDT, PGage <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > So, that’s a “No” for my little neighborhood theater helping out Netflix. > > That rule is a little like saying NYC qualifies, but excluding Brooklyn. > [Probably more like excluding Staten Island, but I feel like Napa Valley is > more hip than that). > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 2:40 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I was using the Academy's definition of "the Bay Area" -- see Rule Two, > part 2(c): > https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/95th_oscars_complete_rules.pdf > > > On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:37 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tangential Footnote: > There is inherent ambiguity, debate and acrimony over which counties make > up “The Bay Area”. Most technically I believe there are 9 Bay Area > Counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa > Clara, Solano, Sonoma and Napa. See for example: > > https://abag.ca.gov/about-abag/what-we-do/our-members > > However, often the last two or three of those 9 get left off the list (and > the three North Bay counties did deal with COVID restrictions a little > differently than the other six, leading to some confusion). > > Jim has also left out the southernmost county, Santa Clara, which also has > some precedent. The 5 on his list are probably the most prototypically “Bay > Area-ish”, though I don’t think you will find them listed in any legally > binding document as constituting the Bay Area. > > As you say, typically they show a film in Manhattan and the West side of > LA for a week or two to qualify for Oscar, but my local, independent > theater (Northern Napa County) does often screen Netflix and Amazon films > (I will monitor whether she will do an NC-17), so wondering idly if that > would qualify for Oscar, or if we are not Bay Area enough. > > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 2:03 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In general, for Oscar eligibility, a movie has to be shown for seven > consecutive days for paid admission in the same commercial movie theater, > with screenings at least three times daily, one of which must be between > 6:00 and 10:00 P.M. (except if it's a drive-in, in which case only one > screening daily is required), in only one of the following places: Los > Angeles County; New York City (anywhere in the five boroughs); Cook County, > Illinois; Fulton County, Georgia; Miami-Dade County, Florida; or the Bay > Area (anywhere in San Francisco, Marin, Alameda, San Mateo, or Contra Costa > counties). It can be made available for streaming the same day it first > shows in theaters, but not before. > > In practice, as Mark indicated, this means Netflix's Oscar-bait films > regularly play for at least a week in New York and Los Angeles. And to be > clear, AMC and Regal wouldn't specifically pass on "Blonde" due to the > NC-17 rating, but because they will usually only play movies if the > exclusive theatrical window lasts longer than what the streamers usually > offer. (That said, the streamers will sometimes negotiate for exceptions -- > I saw "Being the Ricardos" at the AMC Burbank 16, and that one only had an > 11-day theatrical exclusive.) > > > > On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > > If they put it in one theater in New York and one in Los Angeles for one > day or whatever the minimum requirement for Oscar eligibility is, I > wouldn’t be surprised. They’re not looking to recoup the cost of the film > through theater tickets. > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:11 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> > wrote: > > And like they do their Oscar bait, Netflix will put it in theaters for a > limited run at Landmark and the regional and indie arthouses. Cinemark has > shown the more mainstream Netflix originals at their theaters, but I think > they'll pass on this one--and so will AMC and Regal. When asked for > comment, Nicole Kidman said, "Heartbreak feels good in a place like this." > > Mark Jeffries > [email protected] > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:31 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > > I finally got my answer to why Netflix submitted the movie for a rating: > they want it to get Oscar consideration. > > > https://www.salon.com/2022/09/11/why-is-blonde--netflixs-marilyn-monroe-biopic--rated-nc-17-instead-of-tv-ma_partner/ > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > IYC, here's an apparent parent's analysis of *Euphoria*: > https://lolalambchops.com/euphoria-kid-friendly-parents-guide/ (link, > borderline-NSFW) B > > Mark Jeffries, to Brad Beam, Aug 31st: > > R. 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