I was using the Academy's definition of "the Bay Area" -- see Rule Two, part 
2(c): https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/95th_oscars_complete_rules.pdf 
<https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/95th_oscars_complete_rules.pdf>


> On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:37 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Tangential Footnote: 
> There is inherent ambiguity, debate and acrimony over which counties make up 
> “The Bay Area”. Most technically I believe there are 9 Bay Area Counties: 
> Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Solano, 
> Sonoma and Napa. See for example: 
> 
> https://abag.ca.gov/about-abag/what-we-do/our-members 
> <https://abag.ca.gov/about-abag/what-we-do/our-members>
> 
> However, often the last two or three of those 9 get left off the list (and 
> the three North Bay counties did deal with COVID restrictions a little 
> differently than the other six, leading to some confusion). 
> 
> Jim has also left out the southernmost county, Santa Clara, which also has 
> some precedent. The 5 on his list are probably the most prototypically “Bay 
> Area-ish”, though I don’t think you will find them listed in any legally 
> binding document as constituting the Bay Area.
> 
> As you say, typically they show a film in Manhattan and the West side of LA 
> for a week or two to qualify for Oscar, but my local, independent theater 
> (Northern Napa County) does often screen Netflix and Amazon films (I will 
> monitor whether she will do an NC-17), so wondering idly if that would 
> qualify for Oscar, or if we are not Bay Area enough.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 2:03 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> In general, for Oscar eligibility, a movie has to be shown for seven 
> consecutive days for paid admission in the same commercial movie theater, 
> with screenings at least three times daily, one of which must be between 6:00 
> and 10:00 P.M. (except if it's a drive-in, in which case only one screening 
> daily is required), in only one of the following places: Los Angeles County; 
> New York City (anywhere in the five boroughs); Cook County, Illinois; Fulton 
> County, Georgia; Miami-Dade County, Florida; or the Bay Area (anywhere in San 
> Francisco, Marin, Alameda, San Mateo, or Contra Costa counties). It can be 
> made available for streaming the same day it first shows in theaters, but not 
> before.
> 
> In practice, as Mark indicated, this means Netflix's Oscar-bait films 
> regularly play for at least a week in New York and Los Angeles. And to be 
> clear, AMC and Regal wouldn't specifically pass on "Blonde" due to the NC-17 
> rating, but because they will usually only play movies if the exclusive 
> theatrical window lasts longer than what the streamers usually offer. (That 
> said, the streamers will sometimes negotiate for exceptions -- I saw "Being 
> the Ricardos" at the AMC Burbank 16, and that one only had an 11-day 
> theatrical exclusive.)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Tom Wolper <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> If they put it in one theater in New York and one in Los Angeles for one day 
>> or whatever the minimum requirement for Oscar eligibility is, I wouldn’t be 
>> surprised. They’re not looking to recoup the cost of the film through 
>> theater tickets.
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:11 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> And like they do their Oscar bait, Netflix will put it in theaters for a 
>> limited run at Landmark and the regional and indie arthouses.  Cinemark has 
>> shown the more mainstream Netflix originals at their theaters, but I think 
>> they'll pass on this one--and so will AMC and Regal.  When asked for 
>> comment, Nicole Kidman said, "Heartbreak feels good in a place like this."
>> 
>> Mark Jeffries
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:31 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I finally got my answer to why Netflix submitted the movie for a rating: 
>> they want it to get Oscar consideration.
>> 
>> https://www.salon.com/2022/09/11/why-is-blonde--netflixs-marilyn-monroe-biopic--rated-nc-17-instead-of-tv-ma_partner/
>>  
>> <https://www.salon.com/2022/09/11/why-is-blonde--netflixs-marilyn-monroe-biopic--rated-nc-17-instead-of-tv-ma_partner/>
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> IYC, here's an apparent parent's analysis of Euphoria: 
>> https://lolalambchops.com/euphoria-kid-friendly-parents-guide/ 
>> <https://lolalambchops.com/euphoria-kid-friendly-parents-guide/> (link, 
>> borderline-NSFW)     B
>> 
>> Mark Jeffries, to Brad Beam, Aug 31st:
>> R.  There's no equivalent in TV ratings to NC-17--and besides, the three 
>> biggest theater chains will not back NC-17 films.
>> 
>> Seeing that TV-specific shows aren’t rated on a movie scale: If “Euphoria” 
>> [TV-MA] were shown at my local Regal Cineplex instead, would it be rated R 
>> or NC-17?
>> 
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