So, that’s a “No” for my little neighborhood theater helping out Netflix.

That rule is a little like saying NYC qualifies, but excluding Brooklyn.
[Probably more like excluding Staten Island, but I feel like Napa Valley is
more hip than that).

On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 2:40 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was using the Academy's definition of "the Bay Area" -- see Rule Two,
> part 2(c):
> https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/95th_oscars_complete_rules.pdf
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:37 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Tangential Footnote:
> There is inherent ambiguity, debate and acrimony over which counties make
> up “The Bay Area”. Most technically I believe there are 9 Bay Area
> Counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa
> Clara, Solano, Sonoma and Napa. See for example:
>
> https://abag.ca.gov/about-abag/what-we-do/our-members
>
> However, often the last two or three of those 9 get left off the list (and
> the three North Bay counties did deal with COVID restrictions a little
> differently than the other six, leading to some confusion).
>
> Jim has also left out the southernmost county, Santa Clara, which also has
> some precedent. The 5 on his list are probably the most prototypically “Bay
> Area-ish”, though I don’t think you will find them listed in any legally
> binding document as constituting the Bay Area.
>
> As you say, typically they show a film in Manhattan and the West side of
> LA for a week or two to qualify for Oscar, but my local, independent
> theater (Northern Napa County) does often screen Netflix and Amazon films
> (I will monitor whether she will do an NC-17), so wondering idly if that
> would qualify for Oscar, or if we are not Bay Area enough.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 at 2:03 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> In general, for Oscar eligibility, a movie has to be shown for seven
>> consecutive days for paid admission in the same commercial movie theater,
>> with screenings at least three times daily, one of which must be between
>> 6:00 and 10:00 P.M. (except if it's a drive-in, in which case only one
>> screening daily is required), in only one of the following places: Los
>> Angeles County; New York City (anywhere in the five boroughs); Cook County,
>> Illinois; Fulton County, Georgia; Miami-Dade County, Florida; or the Bay
>> Area (anywhere in San Francisco, Marin, Alameda, San Mateo, or Contra Costa
>> counties). It can be made available for streaming the same day it first
>> shows in theaters, but not before.
>>
>> In practice, as Mark indicated, this means Netflix's Oscar-bait films
>> regularly play for at least a week in New York and Los Angeles. And to be
>> clear, AMC and Regal wouldn't specifically pass on "Blonde" due to the
>> NC-17 rating, but because they will usually only play movies if the
>> exclusive theatrical window lasts longer than what the streamers usually
>> offer. (That said, the streamers will sometimes negotiate for exceptions --
>> I saw "Being the Ricardos" at the AMC Burbank 16, and that one only had an
>> 11-day theatrical exclusive.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If they put it in one theater in New York and one in Los Angeles for one
>> day or whatever the minimum requirement for Oscar eligibility is, I
>> wouldn’t be surprised. They’re not looking to recoup the cost of the film
>> through theater tickets.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:11 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And like they do their Oscar bait, Netflix will put it in theaters for a
>>> limited run at Landmark and the regional and indie arthouses.  Cinemark has
>>> shown the more mainstream Netflix originals at their theaters, but I think
>>> they'll pass on this one--and so will AMC and Regal.  When asked for
>>> comment, Nicole Kidman said, "Heartbreak feels good in a place like this."
>>>
>>> Mark Jeffries
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:31 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I finally got my answer to why Netflix submitted the movie for a
>>>> rating: they want it to get Oscar consideration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.salon.com/2022/09/11/why-is-blonde--netflixs-marilyn-monroe-biopic--rated-nc-17-instead-of-tv-ma_partner/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IYC, here's an apparent parent's analysis of *Euphoria*:
>>>>> https://lolalambchops.com/euphoria-kid-friendly-parents-guide/ (link,
>>>>> borderline-NSFW)     B
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Jeffries, to Brad Beam, Aug 31st:
>>>>>
>>>>>> R.  There's no equivalent in TV ratings to NC-17--and besides, the
>>>>>> three biggest theater chains will not back NC-17 films.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeing that TV-specific shows aren’t rated on a movie scale: If
>>>>>>> “Euphoria” [TV-MA] were shown at my local Regal Cineplex instead, would 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> be rated R or NC-17?
>>>>>>>
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