Are you saying this is a function of the number of fans she has, or the unique passion of those fans?
I don’t know if she has ever had a concert in the Bay Area; if she has, I have never noticed this kind of phenomenon. On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 5:40 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > I didn’t know how much people have been exposed to the Taylor Swift > phenomenon and while I’m not disputing any of the earlier comments or > trying to correct them, I need to describe it further. > > First, it’s not about the music. There will always be pop music performed > by young performers and people coming of age will bond with the music and > decide this is the best band/performer ever and probably stick with that > their whole lives. The rest of us just won’t get it. > > The Taylor Swift Eras Tour came through Pittsburgh recently. Tickets to > her show sold out so quickly they added a second show and that sold out > immediately. But that’s not the phenomenon. What happened is anticipation > for the shows took over the city. Restaurants (note the plural) offered > Taylor Swift brunches and bars came up with Swift themed cocktails. Now I > remember when arena acts became stadium acts and in all those years > whatever phenomenon there was stayed limited to the stadium and parking > lots. I don’t remember any act, no matter how popular, taking over the city > this way. > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:11 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I’m so far outside the demo for Swift that in one sense I have no >> meaningful take on her. I know millions of people love pumpkin lattes at >> Starbucks also, and while the thought sets my teeth on edge, the fact that >> I despise it is irrelevant to whether that is a good product. >> >> OTOH, Swift is roughly the same age as Adele, another young white woman >> who sings hyper personal break up songs. But I have loved Adele since I >> first heard her on one of those free iTunes songs of the week, sans any ore >> hype, and she has always seemed more mature and adult and genuine to me >> than Swift, who comes across as a marketing confection to me. I guess I >> attribute the passion and size of her fan base to the effectiveness of the >> marketing. >> >> On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 12:19 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Swift's been putting out albums since 2006, but I can't think of any >>> other pop star who came out around the same time that has stayed in the >>> public consciousness without diversifying or shifting into other arenas of >>> entertainment or genres of music. (I don't think she's impressed anyone, >>> one way or the other, with her few non-music video acting roles.) >>> >>> Having a fan army on a scale comparable to BTS or other Asian pop acts >>> does seem unique to Swift outside of those acts. Sure, there are other >>> groups of intense fans of a musical act, but both the groups and the acts >>> tend to be smaller. That could certainly be sustainable for a longer than >>> average career, depending on the expectations of the artists involved. >>> >>> Maybe Swift has inspired her fanbase in part because her media coverage >>> usually tightly links her personal life to her music. This goes beyond >>> just analyzing which single is about which relationship to include tracking >>> which current or potential romantic partner was seen with her or attended >>> her latest show. And it's been happening for at least a decade. Even in >>> this period of more intense media scrutiny, this seems the hardest part of >>> her trajectory to replicate. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 05:46:05 PM PDT, Tom Wolper < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The Taylor Swift phenomenon is something I have never seen. I wonder if >>> it’s a template for the future, where pop stars can rev up armies of >>> obsessive fans, or if she is a one-time celebrity and after she passes from >>> the pop scene record companies and publicists will be pushing each new star >>> as “The next Taylor Swift” but it will be clear that’s not the case. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 7:56 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Herb Alpert and Prince also achieved the feat. 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