I'm completely on board with any strategy that will simplify (or
especially amplify) the amount of graph data I can get. I had a
discussion recently with Ryan where he indicated an openness to ideas
of this sort because there is (he says) no getting around the 20K rate
limits... an idea I find preposterous, but OK... whatever! So I'll be
very interested to see if we can gain any traction on this front. I
definitely can't get the amount of data I need to keep my app
reasonably fresh with the rate limits available.

- Waldron
GraphEdge.com

On Oct 22, 2:52 pm, Harshad RJ <harshad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am collating the thoughts in this thread [1] into a proposal to improve
> the efficiency of social-graphing applications.
>
> A common API access pattern for social-graphing applications seems to be:
>
> 1. Get the friend/follower ids of a user with [*friends/ids*] or [*
> followers/ids*]
> 2. Get user details one at a time with [*users/show*]
>
> (This approach saves on bandwidth by not using the [*statuses/friends*]
> method, as that would return redundant info when traversing a network)
>
> Now, since [*users/show*] is not a paginated API, it is easily possible to
> save bandwidth and connection overhead by clubbing multiple requests in one
> call. For a social-graphing application, the amount of user information
> needed is minimal.
>
> For example, the following amount of information would be sufficient for my
> application [1]:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <user>
>   <id>1401881</id>
>   <screen_name>dougw</screen_name>
>   <followers_count>1031</followers_count>
>   <friends_count>293</friends_count>
>   <created_at>Sun Mar 18 06:42:26 +0000 2007</created_at>
>   <statuses_count>3390</statuses_count>
>   <status>
>     <created_at>Tue Apr 07 22:52:51 +0000 2009</created_at>
>   </status>
> </user>
>
> This is significantly smaller than the data returned by [*users/show*].
>
> To prevent misuse of the new API the following could be enforced:
> 1. A maximum limit on number of users that can be queried in one request
> 2. Rate limiting based on number of users requested. For example, if (N)
> users' details were requested in one call, count it as (N/2) requests. This
> will provide incentive for using the new API as well as dettering misuse.
>
> [1]http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread...
> [2]http://twinkler.in
>
> cheers,
> --
> Harshad RJhttp://hrj.wikidot.com

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