if, of course, you mean a mobile native application, and not a mobile web
application.  mobile web applications still need to send their users through
the regular oauth workflow.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Raffi Krikorian <ra...@twitter.com> wrote:

> yup!  that's the plan.  sorry if it wasn't clear in the e-mail blast.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:14 AM, tsmango <tsma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify, xauth will be available to mobile applications (who
>> apply) going forward to authenticate users, not just a one time way to
>> exchange stored usernames and passwords?
>>
>> On Feb 11, 10:18 pm, Raffi Krikorian <ra...@twitter.com> wrote:
>> > hi all.
>> >
>> > this is a long overdue e-mail, but i wanted to tease out some of the
>> > directions that Twitter is going with OAuth.  i want to touch upon four
>> > topics: delegation, OAuth WRAP/2.0, username/password OAuth token
>> exchange,
>> > and basic authentication deprecation.
>> >
>> > *DELEGATION - OAuth Echo*
>> >
>> > twitter users love posting media on third-party sites, and delegation in
>> > identity verification is one of the major hurdles for an OAuth-enabled
>> > twitter client to succeed.  i started a series of blog posts around the
>> > following problem:
>> >
>> > You're an OAuth enabled Twitter client, and you've already authorized
>> your
>> >
>> > > user.  Your user wants to use a media providing service like TwitPic.
>> > >  TwitPic, currently, asks for the username and password of your user
>> so it
>> > > can store the photo on behalf of the Twitter user.  You don't have
>> that
>> > > username and password, so how do you give the ability to TwitPic to
>> verify
>> > > the identity of your user?
>> >
>> > check out the proposal for what we're calling "OAuth Echo" athttp://
>> mehack.com/OAuth-echo-delegation-in-identity-verificatio.  please
>> > feel free to comment there, or on the twitter development talk mailing
>> > list<http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk>(or, even
>> > just reach out to me directly).  i think this experiment in
>> > engaging the community around designing this security/identity workflow
>> has
>> > been definitely a success, and i feel we're rapidly converging on a
>> solution
>> > for identity verification delegation.  in parallel, we're going to start
>> the
>> > process to engage our media providers in the conversation as well, and
>> we're
>> > hopeful we can move this forward quickly.
>> >
>> > *OAUTH WRAP/2.0*
>> >
>> > OAuth is evolving, and we at Twitter are keeping up with it.  that being
>> > said, we're keeping our eyes on OAuth WRAP and OAuth
>> > 2.0<http://wiki.oauth.net/OAuth-WRAP>.
>> > we like a lot about it:
>> >
>> >    - it requires the use of SSL;
>> >    - there is no custom signing mechanism -- you simply pass us a token,
>> and
>> >    that token is secured by SSL; and
>> >    - it formalizes a bunch of "profiles" that we've been actively
>> thinking
>> >    about (e.g. a username/password exchange)
>> >
>> > in general, we really like WRAP/2.0 because it's just *so* easy to
>> implement
>> > from the client side.  there are no longer questions around creating the
>> > proper signature base string, etc.  we're sure that developers will like
>> it
>> > as well.  we've started work on an internal implementation of OAuth WRAP
>> and
>> > we envision that we'll simultaneously support both OAuth 1.0a and
>> WRAP/2.0
>> > for a while.  our hope is to get WRAP out the door soon (and before we
>> > finally deprecate basic authentication).
>> >
>> > *USERNAME/PASSWORD TO OAUTH TOKEN EXCHANGE - xAuth*
>> >
>> > @rsarver and @noradio announced that we are going to support a mechanism
>> > where a username and a password can be directly exchanged for an OAuth
>> token
>> > and secret -- we're calling this xAuth.  if you've been watching the
>> mailing
>> > list, Seesmic Look <http://seesmic.com/look> has been a beta partner in
>> > testing xAuth exchange (and @abraham has already detailed how it
>> > works<
>> http://the.hackerconundrum.com/2010/02/sneak-peek-at-twitters-browser..
>> .>).
>> >
>> > because we're moving everybody off basic authentication, we originally
>> > envisioned this as a mechanism for developers to exchange all the
>> username
>> > and passwords they have in their databases for OAuth tokens en masse.
>> >  that's still one of our use cases.  another use case is around
>> environments
>> > where software can't bring up a web browser (e.g. set top boxes, game
>> > consoles, embedded devices).  we want to support those as well.
>> >
>> > you're going to have to apply to get access to this exchange mechanism
>> (by
>> > sending e-mail to a...@twitter.com), but, in general, all applications
>> except
>> > web applications will get access.  we feel that the xAuth exchange
>> allows
>> > for the best mix of security and user experience for desktop and
>> possibly
>> > mobile applications.  web applications will simply have to use OAuth as
>> it
>> > was designed, and send their users through the web flow.
>> >
>> > *BASIC AUTHENTICATION DEPRECATION*
>> >
>> > yup - it's still happening.  we're targeting June 2010.  everybody,
>> > including legacy applications, will have to move over.
>> >
>> > for those who are building new applications, use OAuth.  save yourself
>> the
>> > transition time later, and start thinking about it now.  for those who
>> have
>> > applications already out there, it would be really beneficial to start
>> > thinking about a migration path right now and we're here to help.  if
>> you
>> > need it, please feel free to reach out to us and we'll help you figure
>> out
>> > what you need to do.
>> >
>> > to help entice you over, as you know:
>> >
>> >    - we have increased rate limits on api.twitter.com to those who are
>> using
>> >    OAuth (350 calls to the REST API per hour -- and increasing towards
>> >    1500/hour); and
>> >    - (as some of you are painfully aware) you can only set a source
>> >    parameter with OAuth calls to status/update.
>> >
>> > we know some of you think there are hurdles in places to converting over
>> to
>> > OAuth -- suffice it to say, we're actively trying to address them.  some
>> > potential hurdles are mentioned in this e-mail, and if you think there
>> are
>> > more then please feel free to reach out to us.  again, we really want to
>> > make this switch-over easy for everybody.
>> >
>> > thanks!  and, as always - feel free to reach out to us anytime here, or
>> to
>> > @twitterapi.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Raffi Krikorian
>> > Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Raffi Krikorian
> Twitter Platform Team
> http://twitter.com/raffi
>



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