Dave, maybe I as not all that clear on my Specification:

My ICS Clients will be Mobile PHones MIDP2.0, therefor I do not think
Hamatchi will work, or would it ?

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Dave Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "NAT Traversal" is well documented, but "less than easy" to make work
> from scratch....
>
> But why bother rolling your own?  Just download and use Hamachi.
> (Google for it)  Even the free one will start automaticaly when Winderz
> boots, then you have a UDP based secure VPN between 2 (or more) sites.
> Just about any LAN type app will run across it.  (Versions for Winders,
> Linux, and some Apple OSwhatsit type things)
>
> Works very well.  I have no affiliation with Hamachi or LogMeIn, just a
> very satisfied user of the free version so I can get to my home Win2k
> desktop securely wherever I am, and leaving no unwanted holes poked in
> the firewall.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JLIST [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:45 AM
> > To: ICS support mailing
> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] UDP Hole Punching
> >
> > My understanding is that it works on certain types of NAT firewalls.
> > On these NATs, an external port is mapped to an internal IP:Port.
> > If this is the case, all packets going to that external port
> > will go to the internet IP:Port.
> >
> > Making it work is not that simple though, with the difficult
> > part being coordinating two parties that do not talk to each other.
> > I'm not sure what's being used in real life solutions but it
> > sounds to me that both A and B have to have very frequent UDP
> > communications with S, or have a TCP connection with S in
> > order to coordinate a hole punching attempt.
> >
> > > Isn't the translation state based on the remote peer IP
> > address, too?
> > > Then the same translation created for A-S and B-S would not
> > work when
> > > you try to connect directly A with B.
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "wayne forrest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:22 PM
> > > Subject: [twsocket] UDP Hole Punching
> >
> >
> > >> Has any one made a UDP Hole puncher with ICS ?
> > >>
> > >> Let A and B be the two hosts, each in its own private
> > network; N1 and N2
> > > are
> > >> the two NAT devices; S is a public server with a
> > well-known globally
> > >> reachable IP address.
> > >>
> > >>    1. A and B each begin a UDP conversation with S; the
> > NAT devices N1
> > >>    and N2 create UDP translation states and assign
> > temporary external port
> > >>    numbers
> > >>    2. S relays these port numbers back to A and B
> > >>    3. A and B contact each others' NAT devices directly on
> > the translated
> > >>    ports; the NAT devices use the previously created
> > translation states
> > > and
> > >>    send the packets to A and B
> > >>
> > >> If I were to implement the above, is it really that simple?
> > >>
> > >> or is there much more to it than that ?
> > >>
> > >> Any help appreciated, or alternatives, maybe a plugin /
> > generic solution
> > >> that can be incorporated.
> > >>
> > >> Our current setup is "Server on PC behind nat" and then
> > client on Cell
> > >> phone.
> > >>
> > >> We will have a lot of users not knowing how to do port forwarding.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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