On 2026-09-17 12:55, Chris Walton via tz wrote:
A divergence between Manitoba and Northwestern Ontario would not necessarily
require a new zone called "America/Kenora". We already have America/Rainy_River
which represents Northwestern Ontario. Currently America/Rainy_River is linked
to America/Winnipeg, but it could be converted to a dedicated zone.
One wonders, however, if the city of Kenora will decide to follow Winnipeg time
even if it is not supported by the Ontario government. This would be no
different than the town of Atikokan which has been ignoring the Ontario
provincial legislation for many years. Things are getting messy; very messy.
-chris
On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 2:46 PM Tim Parenti via tz wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sept 2026 at 14:30, James Bellaire wrote:
On 9/17/2026 2:06 PM, Tim Parenti via tz wrote:
While other options may have required legislative action, it appears
the /Official Time Amendment Act/, assented to 30 May 2023, allows for
this, but I am still seeking confirmation on whether that is indeed
the mechanism that will be used.
I agree with that position. They left the legislation at the "Royal
Assent" stage similar to British Columbia and Northwest Territories. The
more recent legislative efforts were to change the law to take effect on
a specific date instead of waiting for proclamation. All Manitoba needs
to proceed is a proclamation.
Here's the legislative text:
https://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/2023/pdf/c00423.pdf <https://
web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/2023/pdf/c00423.pdf>
I have not researched the effects on western Ontario. I was hoping
Manitoba would proclaim it affective in March 2027.
Absent action from Ontario, it would put the portions of western Ontario
that have observed Central Time an hour behind Manitoba in the winter,
despite being east of Manitoba, as they would fall back to UTC−6 while
Manitoba stays on UTC−5.
Worth noting that Ontario's /Time Amendment Act, 2020/, assented 30 November
2020, and does allow a similar regulatory trigger. While it had been stated
at the time that they would only do so in conjunction with Québec and New
York state, that restriction does not appear in the text, so it's quite
possible that Manitoba's decision will indeed have ripple effects into
central and eastern Canada.
https://www.ola.org/sites/default/files/node-files/bill/document/
pdf/2020/2020-11/b214ra_e.pdf <https://www.ola.org/sites/default/files/node-
files/bill/document/pdf/2020/2020-11/b214ra_e.pdf>
A divergence between Manitoba and western Ontario would require a new zone
America/Kenora, but as we have experienced recently in southeastern British
Columbia, at this very late stage, there may be some value in pressing
"pause" before creating new zones.
Manitoba legislature sits Sept 29th-Nov 5th if they don't simply
proclaim.
Nunavut legislature sits Oct 22nd if Cambridge Bay (or now Rankin Inlet/
Resolute) want to join the party.
Just when our long-extended March "silly season" had finally started to calm
down a bit… the September one picks right up where it left off. ;)
Could be another "eternal September" caused by provincial, regional, and
municipal politicians and their electors - the lower mainland and island
effectively decided to join the many boundary areas in BC, which are themselves
reconsidering who they want to share time with and when, also in other provinces.
If any federal outpost, province, region, or municipality keeps DST, there is
now some precedent for going with the EU rules on that.
All considerations of coordination south of the border has gone by the wayside -
change your clocks when you drive, sail, or fly over the border - so gas
stations, harbours, ports, and airports times and services availability may not
be as expected!
Could also bar entry of any goods not (exclusively?) labelled in SI units.
Leave all your .22s, .303s, .45s at the border - only NATO calibre ammo
available up here, labelled in French! ;^>
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
