Bill,
So you have a fast quick Oracle or DB2 solution that
doesn't involve pulling teeth or a learning curve and is
cost effective and machine independent ?

Let me know the stock symbol !

Perhaps all the people who are touting Oracle and SQL Server
should go develop in them and they can try competing with
Peoplesoft , JD Edwards, SAP et al.

The strength of U2/mvDbms lies in the ease of development and
the fact that the apps run forever requiring very little support.
Try running some of those other systems without a DBA and a Unix/Windows
technician available on a very regular basis.

Kevin Lynch
 

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: [U2] uv pe

Phil:

Although this is a U2 specific list, the same pricing problem exists with
ALL mvDbms products.  In addition knowledge seems to be locked up and there
are so many proprietary solutions to simple problems.

Developers often have to pull teeth to solve some basic problems.  Every
business problem requiring an mvDbms solution seems to entail a steep
learning curve (kind of like Linux and networking).

Since the mvDbms vendors aren't interested in long-term revenue but in
short-term profits I doubt whether this will change.  So, in the long-term
we'll all have to migrate off of the dbms (or die first).  :-)

Bill

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:18 PM
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> Subject: RE: [U2] uv pe
>
> Questions:
>
> Why can't end users access the knowledgebase?
> Why isn't their developer versions of the U2 products, as it is the 
> developers you generate UV license sales, not IBM?
>
> I can pay $900.00 NZD per year, and get a copy of MS Sql Server 2000, 
> MS Exchange, MS SBS, 10 CALS for MS Professional XP, 10 CALS for MS 
> Office 2003, Sharepoint Portal, MS 2003 Server, MS 2003 Web Edition 
> all to use for demos or in house to run my business.
>
> Some people may wonder why you would develop something in U2?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil Walker
> +64 27 5336294
> +64 3 3120352
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