But isn't that making an assumption that the connections are
persistent?  With connection pooling on the web side, one could easily
balance 20-30 connections and still support 100 "nearly concurrent"
users.   As long as the DB queries are efficient, the amount of time
in the DB - that is, actual concurrency - could be minimized.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Averch
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:48 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] MvInternet - IBM Licensing Requirement

They U2 OEM Handbook it states:

"Customers are required to purchase a number of licenses equal to the
maximum number of concurrent solution users.

For example, if either third party or in-house transaction-based
multiplexing software (e.g. Transaction Processing (TP) Monitor, Web
servers, etc.) or hardware, other than RedBack, is used in conjunction
with U2, you will be required to purchase the number of licenses equal
to the actual number of licenses you have used without multiplexing
software."

Think of this scenario.  You have a Web site that is accessed by over
100 users at a give time.  You would have to have at least $44,000
worth of licenses to handle that load versus just around 6 to 10 web
shares with RedBack.  We have not found a lot of companies running Web
sites that want to gamble that IBM is not going to catch them.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave S
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:54 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] MvInternet - IBM Licensing Requirement

Can you provide the sentence(s) in the license agreement that states
this ?
--- D Averch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All of the products mentioned here except RedBack will VOID your IBM

> concurrent user license requirement.  IBM does not allow you to use 
> third party or in-house multiplexing software.  You must purchase
the 
> number of licenses equal to the actual number of licenses you would 
> have used without multiplexing software.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond 
> DeGennaro II
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:18 AM
> To: Brown, Rick (brownri)
> Cc: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] MvInternet
> 
> At 08:50 -0400 2005/04/14, Brown, Rick \(brownri\)
> wrote:
> >It seems that the MvInternet product is no longer
> available. Is
> >there some transport to get Unibasic or XML output
> to the web that
> >does not entail spending 16,000 dollars? ...
> MvInternet seemed to be
> >EXACTLY what we wanted. WebWizard (which seems to
> run on that
> >engine) seems way too expensive.
> 
> Rick,
> 
> Just in case somebody hasn't gotten back to you yet, we offer a
whole 
> suite of products and the $16k price tag is for all the bells and 
> whistles, full source-code distribution, maintenance, two days
on-site 
> training, travel estimates, etc..  I was a bit hesitant to reply to 
> the list because I didn't want my reply to come off too like a sales

> pitch, but I also didn't want to leave some technical aspects open
to 
> misinterpretation.
> 
> Web Wizard was written to be platform independent and to work on top

> of any low-level connection.  We have installations running in 
> uniVerse, UniData, D3, mv.Base, jBase, PI/Open, etc.
> and even had a
> few installs on MentorPro back in the early days. 
> As for the
> low-level connection, we have installations of Web Wizard running on

> top of ViaDuct, mvInternet, Coyote, uvObjects, LibertyODBC, our own 
> low-level connection, etc..  Also, the next version of our
connector, 
> which is being seeded to beta testers, will have full SSL encryption

> between the web server and database server.
> 
> The full version of Web Wizard includes a Web API that generates
HTML 
> and auto-adjusts to WML if the browser is a PDA or cell phone, XML 
> parsing and generation, the capability to return dynamically
generated 
> Excel Spreadsheets, PDF, RTF, etc.  Since the API is written in 
> mvBASIC, it makes is very easy to reuse your existing subroutines, 
> files and dictionaries.  Almost always, there is very little code 
> migration required.  For the people that know HTML, or want to have 
> very fine control over the generated HTML/XML, CSS and scripting
there 
> is also a template based approach so you can do anything you can do 
> with HTML, even generate ECMAScript (aka
> JavaScript) on the fly.
> 
> If anybody has any other questions, I'll answer them here, or take
it 
> to e-mail, whichever the list desires.
> 
> Ray
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