Thanks gang for your help.

We'll try out some of these next week. If we have success, I'll share it
with you.

...ds 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Rogen
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [U2] Phantom job started from another phantom job
> 
>    It may sound like a bizarre formula but we are able to 
> control this scenario. We have a background process that runs 
> 24x7. It checks for tasks to do, then goes to sleep, wakes up 
> and checks, etc.  If there is some task that needs doing, the 
> phantom process, starts another phantom process and that 
> phantom process starts the actual process that does the work.
> 
>     So phantom  watchdog  starts a phantom ph.start.
> ph.start's only task is to start phantom.to.do.actual.work.
> 
> This method seems to dramatically keep defuct and zombie 
> processes to a substantial minimum.
> 
> 
> 
> Barry  Rogen
> PNY Technologies, Inc.
> Senior  Programmer/Analyst
> (973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with 
> those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Eastwood
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [U2] Phantom job started from another phantom job
> 
> In the main phantom (one spawning the other phantoms), try executing
> "JOBS" every time it wakes up.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott, Dave
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:36 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [U2] Phantom job started from another phantom job
> 
> We tried this and it didn't solve the problem.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roy
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:58 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [U2] Phantom job started from another phantom job
> > 
> > Try executing the VOC item NOTIFY ON  see help files
> > 
> > This finishes the phantom job and delete the process.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott, Dave
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:56 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [U2] Phantom job started from another phantom job
> > 
> > A colleague of mine ask me to post this on his behalf.
> > 
> > I have a Phantom job that runs continuously. The job performs 
> > a select, executes some processing on the records returned 
> > from the select, and then goes to sleep for a few minutes. 
> > After sleeping, the process repeats itself.
> > I
> > recently added an additional step after the processing. This 
> > step starts another Phantom process which launches a program 
> > that does a select and processes the results of the select 
> > and then stops (using CHAIN "OFF").
> > 
> > The problem is that our system admins have noticed that the 
> > "child" Phantom processes launched by the parent Phantom 
> > process go into a state of "defunct"
> > from a Unix process perspective.
> > 
> > $ ps -ef | grep defunct
> >  fhooven 23180   986 18 16:33:12 ?         0:00 <defunct>
> >   dscott 23302 23199  1 16:33:32 pts/tW    0:00 grep defunct
> > 
> > The child Phantom process runs successfully and the "defunct" 
> > process eventually goes away.
> > 
> > Any idea what causes this?
> > 
> > System is Universe 10.0 running on HPUX B.11.11 A
> > 
> > Thanks for you help.
> > 
> > ...Frank Hooven
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