I agree with you 100% Tony from the independence makes things 'better' for 
people who are platform agnostic -- we're talking a 100% UniData solution in 
all cases, and the issue we're seeing more and more is that prospects want to 
see that the 'core engine' supports the ability to use BI tools they know and 
love.  The do not want to learn to love what we use now - they want to use CR 
for their ad hoc BI queries. It's an RFP-deal-breaker more and more in being 
able to check 'works with Crystal Reports' ...   Even if IBM owns Cognos, 
Crystal Reports is *the* defacto standard in Business Intelligence/ Reporting 
(sorry IBM).   A standard of if OLE-DB (or ODBC) 'works' in my mind is if CR 
works with it -- it's like the IE browser -- you can carp all day that it's not 
compliant with the stanrdard -- but honestly -- it SETS the standards.  CR is 
the same way in the BI world....  So you can't really say that OLE-DB 'works' 
if a major consumer of the provider
 won't...

That said, before I actually told the client I"m working with that they need to 
start pushing on IBM for a resolution (that is, a resolution beyond 'Huh! Yeah 
- I had heard that it didn't work.' <g>)  I wanted to ensure it was not 
something that we had 'missed' in our setup and testing.  No one has sung out 
that a current version of CR is in use using a direct OLE-DB provider 
connection, which was the main answer we needed to hear.  Hey, we make mistakes 
(hourly if you watch close enough!) so we wanted to ensure that our Crystal 
testing was an accurate representation of the current state of the UniData 
art...

I do want to say that OLE-DB is working like a CHAMP with DBxtra.Net -- a BI 
tool we found to see if it was a 'generic' OLE-DB error, or specific to CR.  
And it's specific to CR.  Even so - CR is the 'gold standard' - so we're stuck 
with it!

And, yes - while these kinds of things can be done in any number of ways - 
we're looking for the 'fewest moving parts for a UniData specific 
implenetation' and to be able to say that "IBM's UniData has an OLE-DB provider 
that is CR-Ready"-- I suspect the 3rd party products would increase performance 
and give other benefits, but that's a whole 'nuther topic...

Thanks again!
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