There is, unfortunately, a question of "market power" here. If Access and SQL-Server talk to each other, even if they use a *broken* version of SQL to do so, the market place will expect other databases and clients to talk the same - BROKEN - dialect of SQL.
It's all very well a vendor (like IBM, for example) saying "we comply with the standard", but if the official and the de-facto standards don't agree, then the smaller vendors (and here I include U2) are likely to get trampled. Like it or not, IBM should treat any problems with a market-influential tool like CR as high priority, even if it is CR that's at fault. In an ideal world, if IBM said "CR is broken, and here's how", it would result in CR getting fixed. In the world we live in, CR can probably get away with saying "tough, on yer bike, mate". Cheers, Wol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jpb-u2ug Sent: 19 September 2008 14:50 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Crystal Reports and UniData David, I think you have the emphasis on the wrong party here. IBM U2 is the database not the reporting tool. I don't think it is IBM's responsibility to try and comply with a tool, any tool, it is the other way around. Since CR is suppose to talk to a database and get the information from a database it is their responsibility to try and comply with it. If they don't want to, then they are not the tool you want to use. Find one that will. It is IBM U2's responsibility to comply with the operating systems that are available and to provide standardized access to the database. Do you think Microsoft tries to make SQL Server compliant with CR? Jerry Banker -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:37 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Crystal Reports and UniData Yup - I received your email -- And I'm glad this is moving up the chain. The bigger question to the User Group -- Are there 3rd party products that we as vendors and users **need** IBM to ensure work at some base level? Are there 'natural use' products that IBM really does need to test and assure a base-level of compliance with?? Today, IBM certifies that UniData works on Windows, and several versions of Unix and Linux -- and that if U2 does not work with those products, it would be a 'tier one' issue to resolve. In a very short period of time, it appears any new client we get will be expecting that same 'Tier one' support for Crystal Reports, and we don't have a mechanism to ensure that support. Are there products like these that are 'add ons', but essentially 'core' or 'natural use' extensions that need to be tested in the same way the O/Ss are tested?? David W. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peters > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] Crystal Reports and UniData > > I wanted to send a note on this much earlier, but have been > tied up until now. We can't certify that other solutions, > such as C.R., will work with our products, but we really do > want them to work. It sort of makes sense that we would, > because if our customers can't succeed with their > solutions, neither will we. ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
